By Osterby
When I started to look into the upcoming True Blood story lines mentioned on SVB blog, True Blood Underground and here at this blog, my chin hit my keyboard and my head began to swim. A map formed in my head and then I thought of all these vampires, werewolves, shifters, witches converging on Bon Temps, Louisana.
There is one area in Central Europe where all of the upcoming themes in True Blood seem to converge. Saxony.
Well, I’ll start with a little Scandinavian history of my own. Through the benefits of genetics my family has been able to trace our history back 50,000 years to when a male ancestor lived in the Persian Gulf while man developed the techniques to make flint into stone tools through the migration up into and back and forth along the rivers of central Europe following climates able to sustain their hunter/gatherer existence settling in Scandinavia along the coast of Norway becoming farmers as part of the people known as the Danes around 6,000 year ago. Many centuries later some ancestors became sailors and migrated to the Yorkshire area in Britain, and in the most recent 200 years, more migrated to the United States, Canada, Australia and Greenland. Stay with me here, there is actually a point to this.
My surname is derived from the Danish language of Scandinavia over 1,000 year ago. It means ‘East Place’ in Danish as well as in English and is a name found in Denmark, Norway and Sweden today but spelled Österby or Østerby. This is my family’s link back to Scandinavia, and the first variant spelling of my last name on record was found in Yorkshire dates to 1040.
Ok, so why is this relevant you ask?
In 1948 a head was found wrapped in a deerskin cape in the Köhlmoor near Osterby, Schleswig-Holstein in Germany. Most remarkable is the man’s coiffure, known as a Swabian knot. The Roman author Tacitus gives a detailed description of this particular knot is his book Germania (A.D. 98). Osterby Man was decapitated between A.D. 70 and 220.
Now don’t get me wrong, I cannot claim this is a 2000 year old ancestor of mine. Just please note the name of the town and the German City of Schleswig-Holstein where this skull was found. This town is located in what is formerly known as Saxony. At the time of the Roman Empire, Scandinavia remained independent, the Germanic peoples south of Denmark acted as a buffer between the Danes and the Romans. Danish culture grew without ever being occupied, but assimilated what they had learned from other cultures in the seafarer activities. They traded back as far as to the Middle East, traded and even settled as far east as Russia, along the coasts and rivers of Briton, Greenland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Newfoundland, Normandy, Saxony and Scotland. The rulers of Russia, the Russ, were of Scandinavian decent. The only ruler currently on a throne in Europe that is not of Scandinavian decent is Queen Elizabeth II.
What ties could Godric from Gaul have to Saxony?
Pam relates Godric’s back story in S2, Ep 5: “Godric was captured as a small boy in the first century B.C. during one of Julius Caesar’s invasions of Gaul. He was brought back to Rome and sold as a slave to a Roman master who eventually revealed him self to be a vampire. Godric’s master was quite sadistic. He branded Godric, abused him and used him until he was 16. Then he finally turned him. Godric continued to serve his master-maker for a while until he got the vampire gifts down. He then murdered his maker. Exactly how he was able to do this, he’s never said, but I suspect decapitation. Very rare, that vampires kill their makers and understandably this got Godric in trouble with the ancient vampire community, so he went on the lam, traveling the world, hunting and feeding alone. Ever since his capture as a young boy by the Roman army he was fascinated by armies and often followed them to watch the battles or fought in the nighttime raids for fun. Then he would feed on and kill the wounded. He was wandering around the British coast when he saw Eric and his fellow soldiers in a raid. He was so impressed by Eric that he tracked him down and turned him when he was about to die. Now, he’s just the goddamn sheriff of Dallas. Talk about being overqualified.”
Could Godric have followed the Roman army to this area in pursuit of battles so he could feed on the leftovers while making his way back to Gaul?
What ties could the 1100 year old Scandinavian Eric Northman have to Saxony?
True Blood Wiki: Born in 1046, made vampire in 1077. As a teenager in ninth century Scandinavia, Eric joined with a rogue band of warriors who refused to swear allegiance to any kingdom because, in his own words, “My destiny is to answer to no man.” Eric quickly became the leader of the group, which was briefly infamous for marauding on what is now Germany and Poland, until they mysteriously vanished after a battle in 1077. Eric did not speak about how he was made vampire, or who made him, but has recently revealed that Godric is his Maker. Eric is of Norse “Viking” descent. He made Pam, and she has been his friend & coworker numerous times over the years. He owns the tourist-y, gothic vampire club called Fangtasia in Shreveport.
Why did the Vampire Pope in the Middle Ages have an interest in Saxony?
During the Holy Roman Empire, we have the parents of Catherine of Aragon, King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile found the Spanish Inquisition in 1478. Catherine was the fist wife of Henry VIII of England who was from Yorkshire, the capital of Viking Britain.
In 1484 we have a pope who had a particular interest in Germany. Innocent VIII, in his papal bull Summis desiderantes (5 December, 1484) instigated severe measures against magicians and witches in Germany. The grip of freezing weather, failing of crops, rising crime, and mass starvation was blamed on witches. He issued the bull to inquisitors Heinrich Kramer and Jacobus Sprenger, to systemize the persecution of witches. “It has recently come to our ears, not without great pain to us, that in some parts of upper Germany, [...] Mainz, Koin, Trier, Salzburg, and Bremen, many persons of both sexes, heedless of their own salvation and forsaking the catholic faith, give themselves over to devils male and female, and by their incantations, charms, and conjurings, and by other abominable superstitions and sortileges, offences, crimes, and misdeeds, ruin and cause to perish the offspring of women, the foal of animals, the products of the earth, the grapes of vines, and the fruits of trees, as well as men and women, cattle and flocks and herds and animals of every kind, vineyards also and orchards, meadows, pastures, harvests, grains and other fruits of the earth; that they afflict and torture with dire pains and anguish, both internal and external, these men, women, cattle, flocks, herds, and animals, and hinder men from begetting [...].” He had a penchant for slaves as well. The position of Renaissance popes towards slavery, a common institution in contemporary cultures, varied. Those who allowed the slave trade did so in the hope of gaining converts to Christianity. In the case of Innocent he permitted trade with Barbary merchants in which foodstuffs would be given in exchange for slaves who could then be converted to Christianity.
Was the magister in True Blood in Saxony by appointment of the Vampire Pope?
Was he Heinrich Kramer or James Springer in his mortal life?
Who is the granddaughter of King Ferdinand of Aragon and Queen Isabelle of Castile?
Which leads us to Pam’s history of Isabel: “I’ve always had a soft spot for Isabel. She’s got that Latin temperament. But with that comes emotion and sentimentality, which gets tedious fast. Good thing she’s smoking hot to compensate. She was born in Castile in 1551 the granddaughter of the great Queen Isabella of Castile. She had some pretty shitty luck in the marriage department. In order to strengthen Castilian power she was first married off to some duke in the Plantagenet line. He died, not six months after the wedding. Then came the king of Leon, a Flemish count and a Spanish prince, all dead within a year of saying their vows. Done with marriage and being treated as a pawn in her family’s royal chess game she asked her French vampire lover to turn her so she could live with him outside the parameters of the life she was given. She’s been doing so ever since but has always remained a sucker for love.”
Oh Pam, you aren’t very reliable, but I might get why you are confusing your dates. Isabella_I_of_Castile was born in 1451 and her granddaughter, Isabella of Burgundy, was born in 1515. She was also Queen of Denmark and Norway. Hmmmm. Does one queen know another? They sure dress alike.
Who are Ludis and Yvetta?
Terra Mariana was the official name for Medieval Livonia or Old Livonia which was formed in the aftermath of the Livonian Crusade in the territories comprising present day Estonia and Latvia. It was established on February 2, 1207 as a principality of the Holy Roman Empire but lost this status in 1215 when proclaimed by Pope Innocent III as a direct subject to the Holy See.
Yvetta hails from Estonia where the werewolf witch trials were held.
Ludis is where the Nazis come into the story,with the Latvian Holocaust.
What exactly is Operation Werewolf?
This has been explained over on SVB blog, but if your interested here’s more background information.
Who were the Forest Brothers?
Also similar to Werwolf were the Forest Brothers of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, who continued to wage armed guerrilla resistance against the Soviet occupation of their nations from the end of the Second World War until as late as 1957. Although few Forest Brothers were of German ethnicity, many of them had originally served in military units which had been allied with the Third Reich. As with the resistance movement among ethnic Germans in eastern Europe, however, the Forest Brothers were only interested in the liberation of their lands from Soviet rule, rather than an attempted resurrection of Nazi war aims.
And just were does Lorena Krasiki fit into all of this?
Lorena hails from an area of Russia which was formally part of Germany. Settlement in Pomerania started by the end of the Vistula Glacial Stage, about 13,000 years ago. Archeological traces have been found of various cultures during the Stone and Bronze Age, of Veneti and Germanic peoples during the Iron Age and, in the Middle Ages, Slavic tribes and Vikings. Starting in the 10th century, early Polish dukes on several occasions subdued parts of the region from the southeast, while the Holy Roman Empire and Denmark augmented their territory from the west and north. This is becoming very incestuous!
Is there a crossroads in Saxony as there is in Bon Temps?
So if we know Eric and Godric are in Nazi Germany, I can only say that they both have long histories in the area. Lorena does too. Witches and werewolves are definitely in the area as well. So many themes, so many questions.













BRAVO. I’m standing while applauding. This is just fabulous.
You mentioned that Godric was branded by his master. The were encountered by Sookie and Jessica is branded. Up to this point we have not seen the brand that Godric had. I wonder if there will be similarities in Godric’s brand and the were brand?
Osterby, when Terry said that all families are old, but some keep better records than others, I think he must have been referring to your family! 50,000 years. Amazing!
I love how you have connected all the Eastern European characters with the vampire pope and the magister and Eric and Godric. This looks very promising. I can’t wait to see how it all plays out on screen.
Damn this is so good! Bravo Osterby and thank you once again.
Awww…thanks. Little bells have been going off in my head for a while. Operation Werewolf was the last straw that broke the camels back…pun intended.
Terra Mariana + Forest Brothers = Land of Maryann Forester?
Could Saxony be MA’s old stomping ground? Was she worshiped as a goddess there?
Fascinating article, Osterby. I was especially struck by something you wrote:
“Those who allowed the slave trade did so in the hope of gaining converts to Christianity. In the case of Innocent he permitted trade with Barbary merchants in which foodstuffs would be given in exchange for slaves who could then be converted to Christianity.”
All of which would tie in with the human trafficking storyline that many of us believe will be revealed in future episodes.
Penny, that is exactly why I added that. I about fell out of my chair when I read it.
This is the season that we get the fairies too. That is what is making be believe this is another ‘crossroads’. The timing is too perfect.
Wow! Osterby, this is completely fascinating! I just love all of the connections you have made. Really nice work; I can’t wait to read more!
When I read Pam’s commentary about Isabel, I didn’t search for the dates, so I believed it. And physically, by her constitution, face, eyes and hair, Isabel could be spanish… Sophie Ann no… Unless one of her parents has put those genes. In Spain there is not orange hair.
WHatever, it can’t be an error from the script, it would be huge… So why would Pam be confused? Are both women related though? Is true that their appearence is similar, but they are also opposites. And the queen’s name is still Sophie Ann. There has to be something there.
The difference is 34 years, if Isabel is Isabel of Burgundy, she was already a vampire at 1551, if Pam has messed the dates, mybe 1551 could be the birthday of Sophie Ann, a bastard child from Isabel’s husband, or from the following wife, if this was in Scandinavia that would explain the feauteres. This is a mess, lol.
Just a small point about Henry VIII as it’s the one bit of history most of us learn at school. Henry VIII’s mother was from the House of York but like most noble families her ancestry can be traced back to other European noble houses from France and elsewhere. Henry VIII was also very proud of his Welsh ancestry. He was born at Grenwich so he wasn’t really from Yorkshire.
Anna, The father of Henry VIII, Henry VII was the only child of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond and his wife Lady Margaret Beaufort who was the only child of the fourth son of Edward III who was the first monarch of the House of York. Henry VII married Elizabeth of York. Both sides of his ancestry were from the House of York. Nobility married mostly nobility, as the pool was limited, they mostly married their cousins.
Osterby, I beg to disagree maybe because I come from the UK and here we see Henry differently.
To us Henry was a Tudor, and the House of York descended from the Plantagenets who were French. So did the House of Lancaster hence the Wars of the Roses. M
Maybe it’s because we live in the UK, but for most people here Henry VIII did not come from Yorkshire though he was a son of the House of York, a subtle difference.
Excellent article Osterby! The only detail that might not be accurate is the thought that Godric feed on and kill the wounded. In his last interview, Allan Hyde said that Godric had a lot of anger towards the human race, and after he became a vampire, he went on a killing spree because he wanted revenge and was blinded by his own rage. And that it was on the present day that he realized that all that killing was for nothing.
Gigi the info about Godric and Eric is in Pam’s s2 character profile. It’s transcribed on the arcana page if you want to read it. If Godric went on a killing spree, it was before he met Eric.
I know it Renee, but even you has said before that Pam’s (and the others) comments aren’t completely accurate regarding Stan and other characters because they reflects the POV’s of each one of them. And Allan Hyde didn’t say that Godric realized “through” time or in the past that all that killing was for nothing, but he said that it was on the PRESENT day that he realized it. So, I’m not so sure that Pam’s comments are completely accurate about him either. IMO, they aren’t, because then it wouldn’t make any sense the scene at Godric’s home where he told Eric about how frightening, vicious and predatory the vampires has evolved while Eric face changes into confussion, like if he didn’t fully understand what he’s saying to him. And wouldn’t make sense either that Eric had chosen to have a dungeon to torture humans, if Godric had taught him to respect the human life in the past. I actually think that Godric’s last lesson to Eric was that last speech at his home and his sacrifice of meeting the sun. So NOW it will depend on Eric what he will do about it and if he will honor the sacrifice that Godric has made.
Could be, but I was viewing Godric’s new perspective as relative. I would be very surprised if they turned out to be another Bill and Lorena.
Even Bill admitted that whatever Eric did in the DOD, he treated prisoners much better then most other sheriffs. I think one of the contrasts that is being set up is between Lorena and Bill who kill for sport and Godric and Eric who don’t take killing lightly. IMO that’s one of the reasons why Eric made the deal with Sookie to not kill anyone so readily.
In another interview, AH said that he was given very little guidance on playing the role of Godric. “I had to play a major role, as people had high expectations of an huge American series, and I got no help- no one to blame if things went wrong.” I prefer to stick with the canon back story given on the DVD commentaries. (Just like I chose to ignore SM’s assertion that Bill is Sookie’s “ultimate protector” and that Eric is “just a guy who is out for himself.)
Hey Penny! FYI, over on your tarot thread there’s a bit of a technical problem. A WordPress update deleted some comments and created a few other issues that I’m dealing with right now.
Just found this snippet while I’ve was researching the Transylvannian/Carpathian connection. Could this fit in somewhere?
Apparently in 1549 the legates of King Ferdinand I and Isabella agreed to return Transylvania to the kingdom of Hungary but the local nobles wanted to stay with the local Transylvanian prince
That’s interesting, Anna. The reference to Elizabeth Bathory being from Hungary is certainly suggestive. Lorena is from Vienna, so that could factor into the mix as well.
I’ve always felt that Godric and Eric scavenged the battlefields of Europe, in part, out of the sheer necessity of survival rather than out of respect for human life. Godric was a hunted outlaw after killing his vicious master/maker so it makes sense that he would need to keep a low profile and avoid population centers such as towns and villages (where he might easily be discovered by other vamps.)
There is nothing in the canon of the show that indicates that either of them exhibited the cruelty of Bill and Lorena. In the flashback, we saw how Godric killed Eric’s men quickly and efficiently before offering Eric *the choice* of becoming his companion. Even prior to the rooftop scene, we see Eric behaving in humane ways (ie. glamoring Ginger instead of killing her.)
I guess my point (which I am conveying rather badly) is that there is a world of difference between someone who eats a hamburger and someone who takes a sadistic glee in torturing animals.
That’s exactly how I see it, too, Penny.
I’ve always felt that Godric and Eric scavenged the battlefields of Europe, in part, out of the sheer necessity of survival rather than out of respect for human life.
I think this is true. In the flashback at Fangtasia, we see Eric and Godric swooping down out of the rafters a little too late to save the American GI from the were-bitch. They are fast enought they COULD have saved him and I was disappointed that they didn’t. There was nothing OBLIGATING them to save the guy, but it’s a little piece of a clue that Eric is NOT the perfect a littl hero he’s trying to portray to Sookie through the influence of his blood. NOT that he is attempting to full on deceive her as Bill has done through his ‘bad’ blood, but he’s still a ‘big bullshitter’. LOL.
He was clear with her that he and Godric were not fighting the Nazis. I think before the Revelation, it just never occured to them to involve themselves in human society.
I’m really confused about the Krasiki link (if there is one).
The towns/places I’ve managed to find were always part of Russia and close to Moscow and their histories have more to do with the Russ and Mongols than anything else.
However if it was originally spelt Krasik, Krasiky or Krasicki that could link it with Poland. There’s one historical Krasicki of the right dates Ignacy (1735-1801) who was Primate of Poland and a writer. Though how that ties in with the Empress of Austria is a mystery or a gigantic red herring! Still I’m glad I discovered him as he sounds really fascinating.
As an aside Elizabeth Bathory’s uncle Stephan became King of Poland.
European history is so incestuous.
That’s interesting, Anna! I don’t have a good feel for where this whole storyline is going, but the more information we have the more we will be able to tell when the pieces start falling into place.
I wonder if Krasicki being an Enlightenment writer has something to do with it. They may present the Enlightenment as the antidote to all the darkness of the Inquisition and the witch and were trials.
Be nice if they did. He seems to have been an astute political commentator. I Like the quote from Professor Wikepedia:
Thus, when it was feared to proclaim the truth openly, simulacra were employed in fables so that—if only in this way—the truth might be agreeable alike to the ruled and to the rulers.
Maybe a good motto for TB as social commentary?
An excellent one!
Those of my friends who don’t think I’m odd to be a TB and SVM fan have been telling me for ages that I should write a thesis on TB.
Even though it’s really unlikely that I will write anything, I was finally persuaded to float some of my ideas in writing past an academic I know.
As I much prefer to comment on TB like this I hope you’ll keep communicating with me even though I’ve admitted to knowing someone from the world of academia.
However they did confirm that what we write here on the web is our intellectual property which is nice to know. It’s one thing sharing ideas but another to have them stolen!
Anna, your thoughtful and informative words will always be welcome here, so feel free to express yourself. My understanding is that you don’t have to formally copyright your work to protect your intellectual property, but in the Wild West atmosphere of the internet, it doesn’t hurt. That’s why TAP is copyrighted.
Wow, how do I copyright TBU?
All you have to do is declare that it is copyrighted. You can generate a copyright code for your blog here.
http://creativecommons.org/choose/
Thank you, and done!
Here’s another, just in case!
http://www.webweaver.nu/tools/copyright-generator/
I’m really glad to hear it, I’d hate to see all your hard work and insights being exploited. I think the internet cowboys have probably learnt some of their cut throat tactics from academia.
ROTFL! No doubt!
I’m probably being really unfair to academics as they seem to spend an awful lot of time these days havimg to deal with students plagiarising their work from the web. They’ve even invented software to police it.
Everything that’s written for that world should use quotes, and be footnoted and acnowledged to within an inch of its life!
I don’t think you are being unfair at all, I’ve had that happen to me, where the professor wanted to ‘cowrite’ what i had already written and researched, I felt very misplaced, I didn’t want it published that way, such a shame.
I’ve also had people steal my images of my so called ‘artwork’ on Etsy, people will steal anything if they feel they can get away with it. Intellectual property is an ever expanding field, there aren’t enough lawyers for it that’s for sure.
That’s awful, a real abuse of power, what happened with the professor in the end?
I’m also really sorry to hear about people stealing your artwork, that really sucks. Maybe we should all train to become lawyers to defend each others rights.
Oh nothing really, that 40 page paper is sitting in my chest of accomplishments that have gotten me nowhere, LMAO. lol. It was really annoying because she buttered me up real good. The prof gave me an A+ on it, and said it was her first ever grade of that nature. I was kinda floored about it until the followup meeting where her ambitions came through.. talk about an ego-buster.
The artwork had me really upset because the girl played ignorant about it but I knew otherwise. Then there was a mini-firestorm on FB so the people in that community know what happened and that she is a fraud. Of course I was talked out of following up with Etsy, so I didn’t get her kicked off, but she got her due. But I bet she will do it again.. I haven’t checked on her in a while, i should. lol.
Ha! That sounds familiar. The joke at work is that a certain masters degree program is little more than a research factory for the profs.
I guess you’re not able to dish the dirt or drop some clues?
Gone are the days when they could sit in their ivory towers and write fantasy in their spare time a la Tolkein…
That’s why it’s a good idea to chose something that’s so out on a limb that they have no way of getting any credit for it as they don’t have the background!
Or be old and argumentative, that usually cuts some slack!
PS: thank you for always making me feel welcome, it’s really apprecated.
To change the subject, Osterby, I think you’re right to predict decapitation as method Godric used for killing his maker. My guess is that it’s the ‘preferred’ vamp way to kill another vamp. If they consider staking to be less honorable and more human-like, there’s another strike against Bill. I like the way Mott is starting to parallel Bill. Mott shows us what Bill should have done in the Merlotte’s parking lot instead of letting Sookie get beaten to a pulp, and, if I’m right, he shows us the way a ‘real’ vamp kills another by decapitating Hank. (BTW I’m wondering is this is the same Hank that René talked about.)
When Andy and Bud talk about Tina’s missing head, Sookie says she wants to have the head of whoever is killing her family on a platter. That could be foreshadowing Bill’s fate.
I wonder if Remy, I mean the trucker, will be found sans his head. On another note, while I was poking around for info on Elizabeth Bathory I came across a list of Rulers of Transylvainia which included Petru cel Tânăr. He ruled Transylvania during EB’s lifetime and was a menber of this noble line. The legacy of the Drăculeşti began in 1386 with the rule of Mircea cel Bătrân, one of the most important rulers in Wallachian history. The family is most remembered, however, for its association with Mircea’s grandson, Vlad III Drăculea, who is today both a national hero in Romania and an inspiration for the fictional vampire character of Dracula.
In next week’s preview it looks like Hoyt digs up a headless body, and there was a short clip of Mott in an HBO promo with Hank/Remy’s head. It looks like MAS’s abortion theory was right and he rose vampire.
With all this witch and were history, surely we will be hearing more about the Tryansylvanian vampire history.
Osterby, with this essay, you have given me a great history lesson and many new tangents to explore, which I love.
One thing that I thought was interesting is that the ‘Vampire Pope,’ Innocent VIII, reversed canon law from the 9c (and Augustinian philosophy from the 4c) declaring the belief in the reality of witches heresy because there was no such thing as an actual witch. He made not believing in them heretical. Apparently werewolf superstitions followed the same pattern. In the 9c the Bishop of Mainz chided parishioners for believing in shapeshifting.
I also ran across a group of Transyvanian Saxons that could tie in with the vampire mythos.
The other thing I’ve been researching thanks to you and Bobsgran is serial killers from Mainz. I’ll have a post on it in the next couple of days, but let me just say, this is mind blowing stuff.
Renee, I think the writers from CH to AB’s crew are not lazy writers, in the least. I have seen reviews, comments,etc stating such. We have been peeling an onion for a while and that onion has more layers under the layers we have already peeled. None of the ‘clues’ we get are coincidence.
I sent you some links a month or two ago regarding alchemy, the 7 rays, religions etc…I was wondering if you kept your email??? If you do I’m looking for the chart that shows the progression of the aforementioned concepts to New Age Enlightenment?
You’re right. Nothing is a coincidence with AB.
I’ve got the link (found it fascinating, btw), and it’s coming back at you. I think what you’re looking for is on wikipedia under seven rays.
Hmmm…I was watching an interview with Christopher Hitchens on CSPAN and he traced his mother’s and Sylvia Plath’s self-destruction to their German-Polish heritage. He pinpoints it to a specific area on the German-Polish boarder and describes it as a ‘manic-depressive hamburg.’
I’ve been really struck by the horror that this region has experienced over the centuries and the idea that, on some level, it perpetuates itself with a higher rate of pathology, as I wrote about in ‘The Return of Bill Compton.’
A curious, but probably not important, co-incidence in regard to Bill’s Tuvan throat singing. One of the first significant romantic composers in Europe Carl Maria von Weber (1786 -1826)featured the use of ‘harmonics’ this involves playing one note and singing others at the same time (as with the Tuvan throat music) he was born in Eutin in what is now Holstein but used to be Saxony.
Thanks for this, Gee. I always throw out all the connections I can possibly think of, just in case they turn out to be relevant later.
This may give our Mr. Compton an origin that’s closer to Eastern Europe.
Out of curiosity, do you know of any of his work might demonstrate this use of harmonics that you’re talking about?
Concertino for Horn and Orchestra – It’s the reason I know about Weber using harmonics.
Very cool! I’d never noticed anything like that in Weber’s music, so I didn’t know if I’d be able to distinguish it, but it is there in that piece. Listening to the clip of a multitonal trombone ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiphonics ), helped me to identify it in Weber’s concertino ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmbyBHGLfv8 ). You can here the similarities to the throat sining.
Looking further into multiphonics, it’s a technique that’s used in jazz.
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