Updated 3/8
Based on the parallels from previous seasons, here are some predictions for Amnesia Eric. The first thing to know is that Bill & Sookie are probably still together at the beginning of s4. That won’t last long, though. Bill has a new job that’s going to come between them. The other thing is that AE won’t be hiding out at Sookie’s. He’ll be staying in Jason’s basement.
4.01 A vampire will be missing and a human with a name ending in -ette will be in some form of bondage. The vampire will be SA.* Tommy will start the season with a hole in his chest, no doubt made by the bullet Sam fired at him. Sam will try to save Tommy by taking him to Jessica. The car scene will be very dramatic. Jessica will end up turning Tommy. Once he’s a vampire, he is going to intrude on Hoyt and Jess’s sex life, either overhearing them or watching. Someone is going to take money to someone’s home. Perhaps Sam feels so guilty that he gives Tommy the money that he stole? He will be extremely remorseful and even act subservient to Tommy. Jason and Hoyt will talk at work. Whatever is the topic of their conversation, Jason will be wrong, and Hoyt will be right. Over the course of the season, Jason will learn how wrong he was. Jason will also have a flashback to the last time he saw someone dead, namely Calvin. Someone will plant a hypnotic suggestion in Jason’s brain. Jason and Andy will have a scene that will determine whether Andy will be helping Jason this season or working against him. In some way, Jason will be extremely lucky in this episode. Sookie will learn of Hadley’s death,* and she’ll feel responsible for it in some measure. There will be a memorial service or funeral. The police will give her a hard time, probably after the service. Sookie’s first assumption will be that Eric is responsible for Hadley’s murder, so she will confront him about it. She will believe his denial, which will be important later in the season if Eric is framed and AE doesn’t know if he’s guilty or not. Bill will be struggling to keep a secret, probably that he is holding SA captive or has killed her. Sookie will telephone him at an inopportune time. Tara will wear purple. Someone will be called a hooker or a whore, shocker. Holly will be spying at Merlotte’s and overhear an incriminating telephone conversation. It will probably Jess calling for advice with Tommy. An elderly person on oxygen will be mistreated. Someone will try to extricate themselves from a bad situation, but will not be allowed to. This will be Jesus trying to cut his ties with his master who could be Hallow, but I think is Bill.* The episode will end with a fight in the parking lot of FT.
4.02 The fight will continue and someone will be killed. The police will interview suspects. Eric will make the news. A spoiler says that Antonia will be introduced in this episode, and it is likely that she is Jesus’ mother figure, if not his actual mother. I think she has come to help him extricate himself from the mess he’s in with Bill, which Antonia will describe as slavery. Sookie will barge into Bill’s house and come face to face with a witch. My money’s on that being Antonia. Bill will warn the witch not to bring Sookie into their dispute. The witch will display her power, and Bill will speechify about protecting Sookie. Sook and Jess will go to FT in Sookie’s car to seek info from Eric about witches. There will be girl talk in the ladies’ room. Maybe Pam helps Jessica with that pesky problem of hers. Someone will imitate Bill’s voice, or, in a reversal, Bill will imitate someone’s voice, perhaps SA’s. Bill will get a new job. Tara will pick up a passenger on her road trip. I think it’s someone she will eventually develop a sexual relationship with. If she’s learned anything, she’ll take her time getting there. Jess and Hoyt will set the tone for their relationship with Tommy. They will either follow in Bill and Sookie’s footsteps as negligent parents or show themselves capable of meeting Tommy’s needs, at the expense of their relationship. Jason will be protective of Hot Shot. He will start cleaning it up and will give a warning that should be taken but isn’t. We will learn something new about Stackhouse history.
4.03 Bill’s house will be invaded by vampires working for him. The electricity might be out for some reason. To Bill’s dismay, someone will show an interest in Sookie’s abilities or her blood. Bill will claim Sookie is his and attempt to allay her fears. Bill will attack a woman. Sookie will stop him from hurting her.
4.04 After Eric has been cursed, he is going to fly from FT to Lala who will be on the road driving to work. Eric will come in through the window, the opposite of how he exited the last time he was in Lala’s car. Lala will be freaking, and so will AE. Lala will try to get rid of AE, but when he cries, Lala will hide him in the fridge. Sookie will find him when she’s closing up for the night.
4.05 After finding AE, Sookie will wash his feet and give him a Tru Blood. They will play pool. She’ll invite him to spend the day at Jason’s. He’ll hug her in gratitude. Bill and Sookie will have a big fight over Bill’s new position and break up. Someone will be returning to their place of employment after an absence. This will probably be Yvetta being brought back to FT and put in the DoD. Someone else will be infiltrating Bill’s new organization. I think this will be Pam who becomes one of his sheriffs. Debbie will come after Sookie in this episode. She will run away while wearing a white gown. Eric will come to the rescue, and later they will have an intimate conversation that will be interrupted by Jason coming home. He will be surprised to find Eric in his house and so cozy with Sookie.
4.06 The next day when Sookie brings Tru Blood to Eric, Debbie, on a V high, will ambush her, throw her down the basement stairs, and lock her in. Sookie will discover a nearly drained AE there.
4.07 This is the episode about cross roads. This is when Bill will finally be in Sookie’s rear view mirror and real Eric in her future. At Sookie’s urging, Eric will feed on her. The shower scene will occur after AE is restored to health. They are both going to be all bloody, but it won’t be a replay of the Pscyho scene with Bill. They will make love, and Sookie will tell AE about how Bill abused her. When AE is asleep during the day, they will have an out of body light filled experience in Fairy Land. When Sookie goes back home during day, Bill will surprise her by being awake and waiting for her. He will smell Eric on her and attack her. I think he’s going to bite her again. There’s a scene with Pam at Fangtasia, and this is the episode that Sam does something heroic.
4.08 This will be the Witch War. Before the battle, Eric will get on bended knee when he tells Sookie that they could make a life together. At some point Eric will offer his life to Hallow in exchange for Sookie’s or Pam’s. Someone will threaten to rip off Sam’s dick…again. Bill and Eric will get into a physical fight. Sookie and Eric will have sex after the Witch War. It will contrast with the 1.08 graveyard sex and the 3.08 hate sex, and Eric will tell her she was perfect. Debbie will come back to BT and shoot Sookie. AE could take the bullet for Sookie like in the book, or he could heal her like he did with Laffy after Ginger shot him, making their blood blond stronger. Felton will sexually assult Jason. Random note: Tommy will start school.
4.09 Eric and Sookie will clean up Debbie’s remains and hide what’s left of her body. When Sookie is cleaning Debbie’s blood spatter off the kitchen walls, she will remember Gran’s murder. Bill will bite someone. Eric will be back in his office and thinking about business. Nan will show up and demand the whole AE-Witch War story. Sam’s personality is going to shift yet again. Someone’s screams will be overheard. If Bill has had SA hidden away all season, this could be her screaming for help like Eddie did. In 4.10 a new big bad is after Sookie. This is probably RE back from the cement pond, but it could SA or evil fae. Sookie and RealEric don’t appear to be on the best of terms. I don’t know if they’re fighting or he’s just busy with politics and FT. They are still having shared dreams, though, so that channel of communication is still open. My crystal ball is really getting murkey at this point. I can’t tell much about 4.11 or 4.12 except that Sookie will do her annual cemetery run and someone will get buried there, dead or alive. *These parallels support Midnight Charm’s theories about Hadley being killed in s3, Sam asking Jessica to turn Tommy into a vampire, and Jesus being forced to betray Lala against his better judgement.



I like!
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To add, if Hadley is murdered and Eric is the initial suspect in Sookie’s mind, what happens to change her mind about him I wonder?
To add, if Hadley is murdered and Eric is the initial suspect in Sookie’s mind, what happens to change her mind about him I wonder?
The answer to that is in the parallels for 4.01–
*Sookie will find out about someones’s death, probably Hadley’s.
*Someone will have a death on their conscience. This could be Sam expressing remorse for shooting Tommy or Sookie feeling responsible for Hadley’s death, especially if she thinks Eric murdered her, as you predict.
*Sookie will confront someone about a death or disappearance. Again this could be Eric, and by now Sookie should know to believe him when he says he had no knowledge of Hadley’s death. If Eric is later framed for Hadley’s disappearance, this scene will be key since AE won’t know if he’s guilty or not.
You know, the more I think about it the more convinced I become that Hadley has been murdered and Eric will be blamed. It’s a fun trope TB just can’t pass up: frightened girl on the run because she knows too much, PLUS she has a gifted child to protect. All signs point to the main suspect being the one person Sookie knows Hadley was afraid of–Eric. I’m also convinced Hadley will be found with an object that belongs to Eric.(and Hunter will be missing) It can’t be Eric’s phone but something else of his Bill has pinched. Can you think of any clues on this last point, some clue as to what Bill might have stolen from Eric?
It would almost have to be one of the chains he always wears.
I’m wondering how he would get one of Eric’s chains. It’s not like he has access to his resting place. Could be something from FT, to imply rather than directly point.
I think it’s one of his track suits, they were so prominent in s2, or one of those large flip-flops, or the black muscles shirt. LMAO
ROTFL! Size 14 flip flop prints at the scene of the crime perhaps? You could very well be right. Bill spent the second half of s3 carrying around his fugly track suit jacket. We could have a parallel with Eric’s turning up.
I thought maybe Bill had pocketed something Eric was wearing before they all retired for their afternoon nap. Maybe he left it on his desk. It looks like he had on a chain braided with leather.
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He wasn’t wearing it later that night at the construction site.
i think Hadley might die in s5 though.. we might get some clues or mentions of Hadley in s4 but i think her actual death might occur in s5.. or Sookie finds out about it in s5??
in s4 what we should get is maybe Hunter’s father looking torwards family on the wereabouts of Hunter… maybe he makes a phone call to Sookie..
sort of like Sookie called Isabell in s3 on Bill’s were abouts when she went home…
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well i still think Yvetta will be part of the reason of Eric’s curse.. she said in s3 that she was a “Cardiologist” in her country.. so AB already gave us the “Heart Dr.”…
She could be part of Hallow’s coven or just a scapegoat Bill targets. I’m still up in the air about that.
I still think Yvette is the witch Bill will punish. Whatever her mission was in re: Eric she clearly did not accomplish it. (still thinking part of it might have been to get herself named in Eric’s will so Bill could ‘appropriate’ his money)I think the reason for the curse will lie with Hallow herself.
I agree there, but is she the guilty party or not, IDK. A spoiler had Daisy going from Marnie’s coven to FT, so it seems like she’s the one who will issue the ultimatum. Is it because Yvetta’s pissed or because Hallow targeted Eric and sent Yvetta to him in the first place?
I agree there, but is she the guilty party or not, IDK. A spoiler had Daisy going from Marnie’s coven to FT, so it seems like she’s the one who will issue the ultimatum. Is it because Yvetta’s pissed or because Hallow targeted Eric and sent Yvetta to him in the first place?
Right. I’m not sure Yvette is connected to Hallow or Marnie’s coven at all. I think she might be a witch in Bill’s indentured coven and she failed at something HE wanted her to do, like get herself named in Eric’s will. Maybe she was supposed to put a different kind of spell on Eric that didn’t take, one that didn’t have anything to do with what Marnie will want. Or, as I said in another post, maybe Bill will punish her because she got all emotional and ran out on her assingment before it was completed.
Maybe she did accomplish one thing–she may have pilfered something of Eric’s that will prove useful to Bill.
Whoever Yvetta was working for, her mission was a bust, but she did find out that Bill’s progeny had murdered someone. That’s got to be useful info.
Perhaps this is when Bill decides to kill Yvette, when she threatens to use this information. A vampire in power can’t have his progeny exposed as a murderer.
Isn’t it odd and oh so convenient that Yvette came to Sookie’s rescue right when Bill needed her to? Once again, we see Sookie released from captivity just in time to save Bill from a mean old female vampire.
Indeed. The other reason I think Yvetta might be working for Bill is Holly. She is spying just like Yvetta. If the same person sent them, Bill is a prime suspect.
The other reason I think Yvetta might be working for Bill is Holly. She is spying just like Yvetta. If the same person sent them, Bill is a prime suspect.
Good point, and let’s leave Jesus out of the equation. I still think he’s basically a decent chap caught in a trap, but he’s been way too eager for Laffy to tap into his powers.
*let’s NOT leave Jesus out of the equation.
I think Jesus actually IS what Bill pretends to be, a reluctant pawn in someone else’s scheme.
RIght. If Jesus is part of this, Bill almost has to be the puppetmaster. I don’t see how a disembodied Hallow could have enough power to have minions doing her bidding. That’s what Marnie’s coven is for.
That is what i’m thinking is that Yvetta is part of Hallow’s coven..
besides in DTTW Hallow sent a booby trap witch that cuased the curse.. i wonder how much of that is related to Yvetta’s character in s3??
maybe once Yvetta dies in s3 the curse will be activated?? Pam or Chow might kill her for stealing the money out of the Fangtasia register in s3.. so in s4 maybe Chow’s mission was to find her & kill her.. then the curse get’s activated..
besides Yvetta is suppose to be a were animal shifter in s4 anyway…
I love all the theories here, but I’m still not buying the Yvetta is a were or shifter – no way in hell Eric or Pam would have sex with a shifter or were animal. And that’s just not a secret Yvetta could keep from a vampire.
there is already a Spoiler of Yvetta turning into a were animal when she returns in s4… unless that is a lie spoiler Yvetta is some kind of Shifter or were animal…
I’m sorry then. I must have missed that spoiler. I’ve read the speculation. I have to say if Yvetta is a shifter or were I find it surprising that Eric and Pam couldn’t tell. And Eric even admitted he despises weres and his disdain for Sam was obvious.
Krtmd
You may very well be right about Eric and Pam’s aversion to shifters. My thinking was that while they may not like werewolves, they may find other kinds of shifters attractive sex partners. Who doesn’t like an animal in bed? Yvetta’s stamina alone makes me question whether she was an ordinary human. LOL!
While I take pride in my ‘sex abilities’,
I could NEVER endure six hours of the GP working at full capacity.
@ IATM & Krtmd
I’ve said in the past that I think Yvetta is a werewolf that Pam & Eric have mistaken for a shifter, but I’m not sure there is a conclusive spoiler for that.
The actress did say s4 she ‘turns into something,’ but that could be a witch.
@Charm
Yvetta did look pretty breathless
(And I love how he tells her not to go anywhere…)
if she is the witch that works as well Renee, because she is the Cardiologist
…
besides the spell was activated after the booby trap witch/ werewolf died..
AB could change it and just keep Yvetta a witch w/out her being a were animal…
She’s definitely something supernatural. I’m still hoping that she’s a full on werewitch, but we’ll see.
she will…don’t fret about that. the fact she was a cardiologist was an amazing joke of AB LOL.
I don’t think S/B will be together…ok she is brainless but if they are well she is hopelees and i hope stay in Fairyland will help her. But i don’t think it won’t be that way like i don’t think Eric will fly to Lala, the last person Eric has blood is Sookie so it’s quite logical he will fly to her or where he thinks she will be..especially becouse this will be connected with the curse that im not sure we wintness in S4 but probably we’ll learn about the real meaning in S5.
@ Mony, i totaly agree with you
that was AB joking around with Yvetta being a Cardiologist & the curse in the books was for Eric to seek his hearts desire…
AB & his twisting around the books yet, he keeps it pretty much the same at times..
if they are well she is hopelees
Totally.
Speaking of the desire of Eric’s heart, he’s all set to get it in 4.06.
1.06 Eric texts Bill about Sookie while Jason is at FT.
2.06 Eric tells Lorena that Bill has something he wants.
3.06 Eric tells Sookie that he is very close to getting something he wanted when he was still human and warns her not to get in his way. (He got distracted and lost the girl.)
4.06 Eric wins Sookie’s heart after he feeds from her without harming her.
so… when do you speculate that E/S have sex for the first time if it’s not epi 6/ s4??
because Sookie fed Eric her blood in s3 finale..
so Eric has actually ingested more of Sookie’s blood then she of his..
Sookie inhested Eric’s blood in epi 9/s2
Eric ingests Sookie’s blood in both epi 11 & 12/ s3..
Because Laff has had Eric’s blood, is that why you think he will track him down?
3 people have had Eric’s blood already on the show
1. Laffy ( was the first)
2. Sookie ( was the second )
3. Hadley ( was the third)
they all are connected to Eric as the show progress..
Laffy will most likely find the Viking & place him in the Merlotte’s freezer..
when Sookie goes to work she will end up taking the Viking home IMO..
regarding Hadley.. i think since she ingested Eric’s blood in s3 then he will be the one to tell Sookie of her cousin’s death ( this is opposite then the books).. Bill & Mr. C. alerted Sookie of Hadley’s death ( DD)..
Yes I got that from the post, thanks.
@ BG
Yes, I think AE hones in on Lala because of the blood.
it’s related to the curse & Yvetta.. the curse was to seek Eric’s “Hearts Desire”..
so Yvetta is connected to this since she announced that she is a Cardiologist anyway…
AB is connecting the Hearts desire to Eric on the show already…
Yvetta stealing money from Eric mimicks Long Shadow stealing money from Eric .. & we all know Long Shadow’s fate…
ROTFL! What is the punishment for stealing from Eric?
Death at the hands of Bill Compton!
not this time.. i think Pam or Chow will do the death of Yvetta because of her stealing from Eric…
I’m thinking the witch brought in at the sheriff’s summit in 4.05 is Yvetta and that Bill wants to kill her while the sheriffs want to keep her alive to use her as a bargaining chip.
it could happen that way too… Bill may want a harsher sentence on the witch & the other Sheriff’s may want to keep Yvetta alive for cure Eric or get answer’s …
Bill doesnt want them to seek answer’s so he gives a sentence of death… either way it may connect Yvetta to the curse… if Yvetta dies in epi 4/s4 then the curse will be activated at that time i assume.. then if AE & Sookie are going to have sex by epi 6 then that will mimick epi 6 of s1 when Sookie & Bill first have sex…
Remember Pam had a fling with Yvetta in s3 also.. so she might be pissed off that Yvetta stole from Eric..
also, since Pam or Chow kill’s Yvetta that will be the consequence of Eric getting the curse.. like Billy killing Long Shadow ( his consequence was creating Jessica)..
Love this and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that you’re right. Especially the idea of Eric being hidden at Jason’s. Eric made it a point to tell Bill what a crappy hiding place it was, so Bill shouldn’t have any reason to look for Eric there. Also, it opens the door to what could be very entertaining interaction between Eric and Jason, which I’d like *much* better than Jason and Hotshot.
That’s a great point about Bill not bothering to look for Eric at Jason’s.
I can’t wait til Jason finds Eric in his house! ROTFL!
well i look forward to something like this once Eric get’s his full memory back ( after his Amnesia state on TB) :
Eric was sitting on my bed, his face buried in his hands.. he looked up at me as i entered, & he looked shocked.
“Sitting here on your bed, smelling your scent”, “Sookie…… i remember everything”… ( FDTW chapter 13 page 215 hardback)..
Eric already told Russell in s3 that he remember’s everything from his Viking days as a human.. Russell killing his parents.. but since we get so many things that parallels each other.. i expect Eric to say something similiar once he get’s his full memory back from his amnesia state..
I updated the main post to include 3.07-3.09.
so Russell re-appears by epi 9/s4?? or later??
IDK. I’ll start working on 9.10 after dinner, but I’m not picking up much for a lot of the secondary characters.
A new big bad is coming fro Sookie in 4.10, so that’s probably RE.
I updated the post with the little I could glean from 3.10-3.12. Hopefully that will come into better focus as we get more spoilers.
When Sookie is cleaning Debbie’s blood spatter off the kitchen walls, she will remember Gran’s murder.
Oh boy, wouldn’t it be grand if she remembers the differences between the actual scene of the murder and Rene’s memory of it?
Indeed it will. I’m very hopeful for this one because it’s very straightforward without any room for me to misinterpret it. LOL!
1.09 Tina’s blood is splattered on Sookie’s walls.
2.09 Blood is spattered on Godric’s walls.
3.09 Were blood is splattered on Sookie’s walls.
3.09 FM’s blood is splattered on Tara when Jason shoot’s him. This is a direct parallel to Sookie and Eric killing Debbie when she threatens Sookie’s life.
1.09 Sookie has a vision of Gran dead on the kitchen floor.
2.09 Sookie and Jason talk about Gran. MA, Tara, Eggs have a scene in the kitchen.
3.09 Sookie remembers Gran when she looks at her photo in the scrapbook.
Eric in s3 already foreshadowed to us “When Sookie shoot’s him agian”..
so in s4 Eric will take another bullet it seems like.. that could be related to Debbie..
but wasent FM’s blood being splattered all over Russell’s wall’s with brain parts ( from Tara bashing his head in) a mimick of Sookie shooting Debbie & blood & brains all over her kicten in DTTW)??
but wasent FM’s blood being splattered all over Russell’s wall’s with brain parts ( from Tara bashing his head in) a mimick of Sookie shooting Debbie & blood & brains all over her kicten in DTTW)??
There are two different kinds of parallels. You gave an example of a storyline parallel.
For this post, I’ve been focusing on the episode parallels so I can determine what happens in each one.
3.09 Is when Jason shoots FM. paralleling the blood spatter in 1.09 and 2.09. From that I can predict that there will be blood spatter in 4.09, too.
Eric in s3 already foreshadowed to us “When Sookie shoot’s him agian”..
Be still my heart.
She will run away wearing a white gown.
Remembering that I’m lousy at predictions……..
The white gown/dress will be the one Sookie wore the first time she went to FT.
@MC I sure hope she remembers the difference between her memory and Rene’s of Gran’s murder.
The white gown/dress will be the one Sookie wore the first time she went to FT.
Love that!
You can’t see me, but I’m doing my happy dance! Thanks Renee, I’m loving your S4 predictions – bring it on, AB!!!
That’s great to hear!
Getting crowded up there;
RIght. If Jesus is part of this, Bill almost has to be the puppetmaster. I don’t see how a disembodied Hallow could have enough power to have minions doing her bidding. That’s what Marnie’s coven is for.
Right, which is why I’ve wondered, and can’t decide, if Bill is the one who has engineered Hallow’s release. Predicated on Hallow being MA– On the one hand, she could be a powerful magical ally who was in on Bill’s purpose for the wedding ritual, ie to call a demon to do his bidding, but on the other hand she may feel betrayed by Bill and would be after him, in which case it wouldn’t make sense for Bill to have a hand in releasing her spirit.
But as you say, Hallow would almost have to have an ally who was aware of her ‘predicament’ from the start. I can’t see her being able to ‘call’ minions after the fact. And again, Bill is the prime suspect.
Whether any of this will be clear to the audience is a big ol’ question mark.
The only thing a don’t agree with in these predictions is the fact that Sookie and Bill will be together at the beginning of s4. I’m gessing before Sookie meeting AE se will be promising herself that she will never have anything to do with any other vampire again.
One thing that I hope for is for Sookie to hide Eric in her place not Jason’s.
Welcome Skeja! I think B/S will still be together, distasteful as that prospect is, because their parallels seem to be Steve and Sarah Newlin when Jason moved in and RE and Talbot when Eric moved in. In both cases you have seemingly happy couples with under currents of conflict. RE & Steve were preoccupied with politics, as will Bill be if the s4 spoilers are correct about him being a sheriff or leading a group of them. Their mates felt neglected and a new comer provided a welcome distraction. With Talbot it was entirely physical, but Jason and Sarah seemed to connect on an emotional level, and I think with AE & Sookie it will be even moreso.
so basically you are saying that AB is backtracking into the CD plotline?? at the start of the book Sookie felt neglected by Bill ( the honeymoon being over) & then he disappeared & she went looking for him…
on the show, they broke up but are really still togather at the start of s4?? then she feels neglected that he is working too much because what he hasent went to Merlotte’s to hang out & wait for her to get off work?? LOL !!
Maybe Bill & Sookie make up because he killed QSA “for her” or she assisted if the speculation is true that she isnt in Faeland.. they make up at the start of epi 1/s4 then to break up agian ??
Sarah & Steve Newlin got a divorce in s3..so in s2 we knew that couple was a marriage out of convience & once Steve found out that Sarah slept with Jason he divorced her actually… i mean we didnt even see Sarah in s3.. but Steve mentioned in s3 that they got a divorce..
@TAP – I don’t get why you think that Sookie and Bill would be back together in ep. 1 either. Don’t you think Sookie will still be in Faeville in most of ep. 1? I also don’t get why Jessica would turn Tommy as opposed to just healing him with her blood…
@ Jayetea
I realize both propositions are pretty off the wall. I didn’t lay out all the parallels in this post like I usually do, so I’ll try to explain. I’ve thought since s2 that the Steve, Sarah, and Jason triangle is the narrative parallel for Bill, Sookie, and AE. S3 RE, Talbot, and Eric fell into the same pattern. IMO, it’s all foreshadowing for Bill and Sookie still being together.
Sookie will rationalize Bill’s behavior and accept him back just like she did after the terrible trio, the cop being glamoured, Uncle Bartlette, the cheating, and the draining. I think Sam Trammell alluded to this in an interview last month when he said Sookie loves Bill, using the present tense instead of the past.
Here are the parallels:
*Sarah & Steve/Talbot & RE aren’t the happy couple they appear to be at first. (Sookie & Bill will act like a happy couple, but be far from it.)
*Jason/Eric moves in and catches Sarah’s/Talbot’s attention. (AE will upset the apple cart.)
*Sarah surprises Jason in the bathroom and talks about Mary Magdalene washing Jesus’ feet. (AE will surprise Sookie in the shower. Sookie will wash AE’s feet like MM.)
*Sarah/Talbot feels neglected when Steve/RE is focused on politics and war. (Sookie will be jealous of Bill’s new position in the vampire hierarchy.
*Sarah/Talbot find out that Steve/RE is capable of violence that they never imagined. (Sookie will discover what Bill is capable of.)
*Sarah/Talbot turn to Jason/Eric. (Sookie will turn to AE.)
The reason I say Tommy will become a vampire also has to do with parallels.
*Tommy ends up with a hole in his chest like Bill 3.01 and Ms. Jeanette 2.01.
*Tommy finds himself in a confined space(Sam’s car) with an enemy, like Lala with Royce in 2.01 and Bill with the Weres in 3.01.
*His enemy will provide the means for his salvation like Royce providing Lala with a tool to break his chains and Coot providing the gloves that Bill used to escape. I think this will be Sam delivering Tommy to Jessica.
*Tommy dies before Jess can heal him, becoming another dead -ette, along with Maudette, Bartlette, and Ms. Jeanette. (Sookie found out about all their deaths in the first ep of the season, and I think she’ll find out about Tommy’s too.)
The reason I think Tommy dies is that when Bill turned Jess, she was drained to the point of death and then given Bill’s blood. Basically that’s what happened with Hank, but Jess must have missed something or gotten the timing wrong. She won’t with Tommy.
*As a result, he ends up enslaved to Jessica, as all vampire children are enslaved to their makers and becomes the -ette in bondage in episode 1. Maudette (1.01), Lafayette (2.01), Yvette (3.01).
*He will watch or overhear Hoyt and Jess having sex. (Jason watches vampire sex 1.01, Jessica overhears vampire sex 2.01, Sookie sees vampire sex 3.01)
I’ve talked before about how I think Tommy will move in with Jess & Hoyt. His pathetic old truck is screaming for Tommy to restore it.
Okay, I can see where you are coming from now. I guess it could totally happen, especially considering there is book precedent for a were being turned. Tommy being turned has a ton of interesting possible aftereffects. I am trying to picture how Sam would really feel about it once it was done, not to mention Bill becoming a grandvamp!! I can’t see Hoyt being happy about that scenario whatsoever.
Bill might embrace being a grand vamp
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Jessica spoiled in her latest interview that she & Bill grow xloser & bond more in s4.. he is embracing being a father to her now.. so Billy is going through a change in s4 as well..
se will be promising herself that she will never have anything to do with any other vampire again.
What Sookie decides and what Bill will allow her to decide are usually two different things. He doesn’t much care for what she wants, it’s all about what he wants out of her. Bill will do whatever it takes, and there are apparently a lot of tricks at his disposal, to keep his fangs into her.
well Sookie is Bill’s Renfield already no matter how she tries to fight it.. her “free will” is limited with Bill..
at this stage in the game if AB actually does have B/S kiss in s4 & kiss on Alcide & end up sleeping with AE & end up kissing on Llyod the Hybird Fae i think alot of the reviews on the show will plummet out of lack of respect for the story.. AB keeps making changes but really all he is doing at the end of the day is make Sookie look more stupid each season so by the time he finishes the series no one will care what happens to Sookie Stackhouse.. or if she chooses good over evil.. she is a lost cause.. the show would loose ratings.. & i think for the most part the majority of the fans of TB are really CH fans.. so once AB looses the CH fan base the show will end up comming to a end… right now AB has prolonged alot of the CH fans just for s4.. if AB keeps Sookie in a stooper for too long ( Bill’s Renfield) in s4 after they broke up in s3 finale for her to go back & run to him or his arms she is really out of it…
well Sookie is Bill’s Renfield already no matter how she tries to fight it.. her “free will” is limited with Bill..
That’s the point. She really is ‘out of it’. By using his blood, mind control techniques, and magic spells to control Sookie ‘free will’ is not something she is acquainted with right now. Once all of this is made clear to the audience they will root for her to get away from Bill and out from under his influence. They won’t blame her for things she had no control over. The fun will come in when Eric and all her friends team up to defeat Bill.
I think Lloyd will put the moves on Sook, but she’ll reject him, and I don’t know about getting physical with Alcide. There could just be more of the same there. That’s consisent with the books. Alcide was always the ‘What if?’ not the been there, done that.
Are you firmly in the camp that Lloyd will put the moves on her–At Bill’s ‘urging’?– with the purpose of breeding another hybrid?
What I’m unsure about is Lloyd’s motivation. It could be as you describe, or he could be on a mission from Mab to seduce Sookie for who knows what reason.
What would Mab get out of a breeding program? I know we’ve discussed this before–I vaguely recall that we thought maybe Mab wants fairy agents or representatives in the ‘real’ world for some purpose or other, but if Lloyd is manifest in the real world perhaps he’s there, if at Mab’s urging, to recruit Sookie for that purpose.
@MC. What would Mab get out of a breeding program?
If she is a doppel for RE/Bill then it seems world domination is a goal.
Or strength in numbers to fight vampires perhaps.
@MC. What would Mab get out of a breeding program?
If she is a doppel for RE/Bill then it seems world domination is a goal.
Or strength in numbers to fight vampires perhaps.
If the hybrids don’t know about their heritage, as indicated by Sookie, and they have no real power to fight vampires Mab would only be succeeding in creating more meal tickets for vamps.
IMO, if Mab is behind Lloyd it’s not for the purpose of a breeding program, that is more likely to be Bill’s intention. If she is behind Lloyd’s visitation he’s either there as a messenger or a protector. However, the parallels do not indicate this will be Lloyds purpose, so my money is on a breeding program instigated by Bill.
Could Mab be on the side of good instead of evil? Maybe she is looking for revenge against those that allegedly wiped out her species from the magical world, vampires. And will employ any means to get what she wants.
Oops. Answered my question before I finished typing.
Could Mab be on the side of good instead of evil?
This is what I’m going to assume until I have further evidence. I’m just very reluctant to assume evil intentions on the part of Sookie’s ‘people’, at least where she is concerned. This would play too neatly into Bill’s game plan of isolating her from anything or anyone who could help her get away from him. We might think at first that Mab is up to no good–I still think she will turn out to be Claudine’s mother– but hopefully this will turn out to be a false first impression.
i think Queen Mab is pissed off that the Fae world has been intruded by a vampire?? or possibly the fact that Sookie has been drained & the daywalking secret is out in the open or Claudine didnt babysit like she was suppose to..
if AB has Queen Mab taking the place of Niall as Sookie’s great great Grandmother then does she know Bill already?? because Niall & Eric knew eachother from the past…
Mab could be taking the place of Nial.(sp?)
I love it when we’re on the same wave length IATM LOL
HAHA Hey Morning BG
yea, i’m wondering if AB is giving Billy this story arc on the show??
if Queen Mab takes the place of Niall, then it’s possible that maybe Mab & Bill knew eachother from the past???
Depends on which way Mab will bend. Good or evil, IATM. Remains to be seen yet.
@ BG, i think Queen Mab will be a mixture of both Good & Bad.. she is suppose to be pissed off in s4 about something.. but if she is related to Sookie as a sky Fae then i think she will be like Niall.. Niall didnt have a problem with killing if he needed to…
if Queen Mab ends up being a water Fae then i think she will end up being “Bad”..
A few questions I have:
1. How many hybrids has Bill come across during his life as a vampire?
2. How many has he killed before he was able to employ ‘basic tantra’ with Sookie to make the experience last?
3. How many fairy ‘godmother/fathers’ has he accessed, and possibly gained control of, through a blood bond with these hybrids, ala Claudine?
The possibilities boggle the mind. If Bill has a coven of witches and a clatch? horde? of fairies at his disposal it’s no wonder he’s gained power in s4.
right Charm,
the only thing is that all vampire’s in s3 knew of the daywalking Myth.. Russell & Eric knew ( heard of it before).. QSA also knew or heard of the Myth for her to even send Billy to begin with..
it wouldnt make much sense if no other vampire in the past ever came into contact with a Hybird before Sookie.. & if draining a Hybird takes a vamp into the Fae portal, then that too must have occured in the past…
all vampire’s in s3 knew of the daywalking Myth.. Russell & Eric knew ( heard of it before).. QSA also knew or heard of the Myth for her to even send Billy to begin with..
Russell had heard of the myth but he didn’t believe it and he had never come across a fairy or fairy hybrid before: “Fucking Fairies! Who knew?”. If a three thousand year old vampire had no idea fairies truly existed it is highly unlikely that they are common knowledge among regular vampires.
Russell had heard of the myth but he didn’t believe it and he had never come across a fairy or fairy hybrid before: “Fucking Fairies! Who knew?”.
Actually, it’s also pretty clear that Russell had never connected the myth of daywalking with the mythical Fae. He had no idea one had anything to do with the other.
Right i agree, But Eric called Sookie a Hybird & said that was the reason she was undected…
so basically it is weird that all these vamps even a 3,000 yr old one never came across a Hybird before.. but yet he heard of the Myth of Daywalking before..
so the Hybirds are able to mask their scent it seems like & live amoung the Humans & vamps while the True Fae cant because a vampire will be able to detect them…
i mean QSA is 500
Eric is 1,000
Russell is 2,8000
all of them have heard of the Myth but didnt come across on.. well for one the True Fae live in another relam.. they bounce in & out of the real world to Fae land.. the Hybirds can go undetected because the vamps cant pick up their Faeness i guess..
Right i agree, But Eric called Sookie a Hybird & said that was the reason she was undected…
Eric got this information from QSA via Hadley. How the queen knew about the fae and their connection to daywalking is anybody’s guess.
Bobsgran: Depends on which way Mab will bend. Good or evil, IATM. Remains to be seen yet
Which way did Niall bend? What was he up to in the books?
yes, i agree.. but Eric was the one who said because Sookie is a Hybird is the reason that she was undected..
i think the info he got from Hadley / QSA was the general basics of Bill’s mission & the Daywalking.. which is why he sent Hadley to warn Sookie “Dont Trust Bill”..
then Eric asked Bill if it were true in epi 10 “I Smell A Rat” & Bill confirmed that it was true about the Daywalking..
so Eric never meeting a True Fae is not weird since the True Fae live in another world anyway..
but the Hybirds seem strange that Russell nor Eric or Malcom & other older vamps never ran across a Hybird Fae before..
Barry was working in a vampire Hotel for “x” amount of time & was undetected as well.. untill Sookie sent him to give that message.. then Billy is the one who saved him from Lorena..
so the Hybirds are out there but how many vamps have came across them?? i guess you have to taste one to know that they taste different( like Lorena tasted Barry & Sookie)..
it would be weird to say the least if AB actually has all these vamps before the Great Revelation never come across a Hybird Fae before?? then on top of it.. Russell said to Eric “The Daywalking Myth was around when he was turned”.. so Russell heard of the Myth in the past & knew that Fae exsisted once ( Eric & Russell thought thought the Fae were extint)…
@MC. Which way did Niall bend? That isn’t entirely clear. Up to now it appears he is on Sookie’s side. Whether his true motives have been explained is a very gray area. He has his own motives it seems. Although he does have a grudging respect for Eric and knows he loves her.
Right Alcide was always the “What if”?? but if AB isnt going to cast Quinn then he could cast someone to take his place??
i think Quinn is comming in s5 though.. & AB said that he looks forward to blowing up a hotel.. so i think the show will at least go to a s7
Thank for the welcome Renee! I notice a different between Eric & Talbot, Jason & Sarah relations and Eric & Sookie! In the first two ones these relationships were catalysts of change in the primal relationships. But in the case of Eric & Sookie their relationship is supposed to become a primal one and not be just a sign of change. In my humble opinion AB will gave Sookie a chance for cleansing of Bill’s influence before she start her relationship with AE.
And frankly, parallels be damned, I’d be happy to see that.
Hey Renee, you did see the newest post from Inside True Blood, right?
I have been working in this business for several years now, and each and every time I walk onto a set, it never ceases to amaze me to see all the trucks and cranes and crewmembers. A production is such a huge operation, it’s incredible that everything comes together. The details that go into a television shoot are endless: how much blood should be on Eric’s face in this scene? Which t-shirt should Jason be wearing when he walks into Merlotte’s? How many extras should there be at Hot Shot? For which scenes will we need stunt people? What will we shoot practically and for what will we need to utilize visual effects? The delegation is so specific and the prep so intense that somehow, everyone knows where to go, when to be there, and what to bring.
Then Ms. Sobol goes into the ‘Tone’ meetings:
WHO ATTENDS: Alan Ball, Executive Producer Gregg Fienberg, the writer of each episode, the first Assistant Director, and the cinematographer
WHAT IT’S ABOUT (according to writer/producer Alexander Woo): The tone meeting is the first opportunity for the director to sit with Alan, Gregg, and the writer and talk about the episode scene by scene. For new directors to our show, it’s an especially valuable time to clarify any issues about story, style, or tone
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It is so lovely to have first hand confirmation of the thought and planning that goes into every detail. Unless people want to accuse Ms. Sobol of lying or exaggerating I think the take-away message of this post is “Nothing is random, it’s all there for a reason”. Dancing chairs and swords, morphing photographs, illogical scenes and all..
Isn’t it gratifying to have things confirmed. I did a little happy dance in my chair when I read that. All those changing pictures, dancing furniture et al are where they are supposed to be.
I think it the purpose of this post is to directly address some of the complaints people have about sloppiness and whatnot. If they are this careful but yet the show is still chock full of anomalies then there has to be a reasoning behind the anomalies. They aren’t simply ‘mistakes’.
It is great to finally get confirmation about the level of detail that they are putting into TB. Fingers crossed we’ll get even more.
Fingers crossed we’ll get even more.
We’re totally going to get more:
This is the first in a series that I will call “The Production Machine,” a detailed look at the process of how each episode comes together.
So they must be a few days at least into shooting ep 5 proper and we still do not have a title yet. I get the feeling this one must be a doozy.
@MC
In the books, Niall appears to be Sookie’s loving great-grandfather, but there are many who question his motives and think he’s mainly politically motivated. Now I’m second guessing him for sending Preston Pardloe to Sookie as a Christmas gift. The one thing in his favor is that Eric has a history with him and seems to trust and respect him.
Well, if Eric trusts him..
However, I can see why you’re suspicious of such a Christmas gift. It’s either extremely creepy or there was an ulterior motive.
it was creepy & strange that Niall would send Sookie sex for X-mas…
Niall is also the one responsible for getting rid of the F.B.I. that was seeking Sookie’s help & offering her a real high paying Job that Sookie didnt want.. because she said that she doesnt want to help people or look at the bad things happening or something she said in DAG…
Niall & Eric have a past that CH didnt explore further in FDTW/ nor DAG.. & Niall ended up closing the portal in DAG anyway after the Fae war was over..
Eric said in FDTW that if a war broke out between the Fae & vampire’s agian he would go after Niall first.. so they had a complicated relationship ( Niall & Eric).. plus Niall offered to kill Eric & Sookie jumped on the idea & refused it… Quinn is another one who offered Sookie the idea of killing Eric & Sookie refused it..
on TB Russell offered to kill both Sookie’s “Precious Viking” & her “Brooding Mr. Compton”…
I’m always amazed at your retention of book facts. I’d forgotten about Niall and Eric’s comments about killing one another. I hope Eric will eventually reveal their past history.
i always found Niall to be a strabge character & sort of creepy.. i wasent fond of Preston ( & i have all the short stories) nor was i fond of how CH tried to clean up that sexual expeience with Preston in DITF…
but alas i watch TB for the Viking alone
& i do think that the writer’s give Billy way too much stuff ( all the cut & paste) for Billy’s character on the show is a bit much for this bookie
but to be fun i enjoy speculating nonetheless…
yea Quinn & Niall offered to kill our “percious Viking” & Sookie refused.. Quinn offered in ATD & Niall offered in FDTW.. Eric said if a another war broke out between Vamps & Fae he would go after Niall first ( FDTW)..
you know , this has me wondering if AB will explore this on TB?? create a Fae & vamp war??
as for the books though i wonder if CH will eventually write an explanation on Eric’s & Niall’s past?? but CH needs to write a past on Eric & Quinn as well.. because in DD it seemed like Eric & Quinn had a past .. Sookie stated in DD ( book 6)
Eric : What have you been telling Sookie Quinn?
Sookie : “The two tall men looked at eachother.. i didnt beleive I was the source of their animosity. I was a symptom, not the disease. Something lay underneath this..
so this is yet unfinished & not explained about E/Q past…
Hopefully CH will explore/ or explain this in the upcomming Compaion Book this year since Quinn will be in that book..
I’ve always thought that besides being jealous of him, Eric realizes that the Queen has sent Quinn to do what Bill couldn’t manage – to procure Sookie. In this case, Quinn is up front about it, telling her right off the bat why he’s there AND then asking her out. But I’ve never been convinced that his motives were completely innocent. And I’ve always been suspicious of how he turns up to help her clean out Hadley’s apartment. He’s there at the behest of the Queen to find the missing bracelet. And I’ll try not to talk too much about the dry humping kitchen sex, but yuck…
All that said, I still think Quinn is genuinely interested in Sookie. But that doesn’t change the fact that he is not completely his own man. At first, he’s working for the Queen and then it’s the Nevada vamps.
This is a great analysis of Quinn! Thanks for helping me think more deeply about how he fits into the big picture. I usually try to avoid thinking about him at all.
Quinn is really suspicious and I would even go farther to say that he only worked for the Queen and openly explained this to Sookie because his true motives are even deeper than this. He was quite evasive towards spending time with Sookie up until shortly before the summit. I’m not sure if he really was genuinely interested as I always found it strange that he did not find the time for Sookie in the months between her visit to New Orleans and Rhode. The met only 3 times during this period and always in circumstances were they couldn’t get too close. Really no weekend, no evening to free up to spend with your supposedly love interest?
I’ve always thought it was extremely creepy – especially given Sookie’s preference for making her own choices and her history of sexual abuse.
in a past interview CH said or made a comment about she cant wait to meet Niall on TB ( i think it was this past Comic con)..
AB casted Mab??? so IDK if that means AB plans on casting Niall later or if that means Mab is taking the place of Niall on TB…
either way Book Niall knew Eric from the books.. & went through Eric to contact & meet Sookie.. Niall & Eric has a past in the books..
if Mab went through Bill on TB because she knows that Sookie & Bill are blood bonded then AB might be giving that story arc to Bill on the show??
then we still have the issue of the sky Fae vs. the water Fae..
the water Fae in the books were the ones responsible for killing Sookie & Jasons parents in the past.. the water Fae are the ones who wanted to keep their species sepreate from humans.. & Niall wanted to only know Sookie & not Jason.. his son Dermont pledged & teamed up to be with Brandon as a water Fae & then Thing 1 & thing 2 are the ones who killed Sookie’s parents..
so since AB is bringing the Fae in the story in s4.. what we have to look for is who is sky & who is water Fae?? then AB might be giving Billy the whole connection of knowing the Fae in the past.. or at least Mab in the past ( since the Fae portal is in Bon Temps cemetary).. & B/S were dating & Billy reads up on Myths ect..ect..ect..
IATM, you bring up a good point about the water/sky fae. So far we’ve had a large pond as a portal and a spoiler of the elf or fairy that looked quite waterlogged. So we aren’t clear which one Mab may be.
Right BG, right now we have no clue to what side Mab might be on.. in s3 Claudine told Sookie that the “water” didnt kill her parents or she was alluding to it??
i think Claudine meant that the water wasent responsible for killing Sookie’s parents & dont be afraid of the water..
QSA is into water as well on TB.. i wonder if AB will connect QSA to the water Fae??
also i think AB kept Claudine a sky Fae from the looks of the Fae portal..
I’m not looking for Niall to show up this season. Mab may have taken over the role or Earl, if he’s living in FL. I could see them repurposing the character and using him in a later season when the focus is more on fae politics.
Right Renee, i’m actually very interested in the Earl character.. IDK, if AB made Earl the new Fintin on TB.. Fintin was Niall’s son & the father of Sookie & Jason ( FDTW)..
I’d just read “Dead and Gone” before reading “Gift Wrap” and although it seems I’m suspicious of everyone, I’m one of the ones who has a lot of questions about Niall’s motives.
Does it make sense for him to risk a pregnant Claudine (a generation closer and a whole lot more fae than Sookie), to defend Sookie when fae fertility is a looming crisis?
And the Preston thing, what good is a gift like that if you don’t remember anything about it the next day? And the use of a “little” fairy magic to get it started bothered me a lot. I wondered if Sookie was part of some kind of breeding program intended to allow the fae to develop resistance to the toxins in Sookie’s world or to improve fae fertility. This lead me to wonder if there was a breeding program, whether Niall had given Gran the same kind of “gift.” Jason and Niall seemed very alike to me so I also wondered what “essential spark” Sookie had that Jason missed?
All this makes me wonder if “Queen Mab” isn’t intended to be the prince’s mother? If that’s the case, I’m suspicious of *her* motives too.
Excatly, KCS –
what good is that kind of gift if you dont remember it?? the whole Preston thing was weird.. & the way CH tried to clean it up in DITF was just as wierd ( maybe that is a result of writing too many books & not knowing when to stop & end the series)..
CH never got Sookie pregnant by Preston & it wasent noted that Sookie used a condem with him in Gift Wrap.. Sookie told the reader’s that she used a condem with Quinn in ATD when she had sex with him.. so if Sookie was intended to be “used” as a breeding program i’m not sure that Sookie can even have kids anyway… i think Sookie is steril or non breedable or something.. she is a Hybird ( like a mule) ..
it’s all in Sookie’s mind that she “wants a normal life” & wonder’s why nodody ever asked her to marry her, & having kids… i mean Sookie has been saying the same thing over & over & over agian since book 1 ( about wanting a normal life & nodody ever asked her to marry them & wanting kids)..
& yet CH married Sookie off to the Viking anyway & we have to endure a bunch of books of Sookie not really wanting to be married to Eric even though she knows it saves her life from Felipe…
talk about a complete Dimwit.. CH created her first before AB did…
Sorry but I can’t remember who came up with the idea of Tommy being turned. There are some parallels that indicate this is the case. I’m going to lay them out and want to give credit where credit is due.
Hey Renee, here is why I think Tommy will be turned:
http://www.sookieverseblog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1127
i like the idea of Tommy becomming a vamp.. ( he would actually be the new Jake P).. the werewolf that became a vampire & cant shift anymore..
i am extremely curious to whom Hadley ran off to..?? does she know some some werewolf’s?? or other witches or something to take Hunter too?? & she must not know that if a vamp tasted your blood he can track you.. so who finds her?? & who kill’s her?? i mean if QSA is really dying on epi 1/s4 then Hadley is out there with another vampire who has tasted her blood & can track her..
right now we Know that Eric has exchanged blood with her.. but did another vampire besides Eric & QSA?? did Andre?? or Bill?? QSA offered Bill Hadley’s blood in s2 & he turned it down..
he would actually be the new Jake P
Exactly. I am waiting with baited breath to see how this affects his shifting. Is there anything in the books about that? I know he was a social outcast, but could he still shift as usual?
in the books Jake P couldnt shift after he was turned into a vampire ( ATD) .. Jake explains this to Sookie in ATD..
so if the show creates Tommy the NEW Jake it will be interesting to see if AB keeps to the spirit of the books.. Tommy is a Pure Shifter already & Jake was a werewolve in the books..
I think MA was a bird shifter in her human life, but immortality made it impossible for her to fully shift. She still had her claws, though. The bat boy theory rests on Bill being a shifter who could no longer fully shift once Lorena turned him. If Tommy is turned, we’ll know whether we’re on the right track with Bill or not.
I can’t wait to see the results of this! It is the perfect way to illustrate what is going on with Bill.
Who do you think will turn Tommy? I’m thinking Sam takes him to Jessica for turning and this is why ‘the honeymoon is over’ between her and Hoyt. Baby vamp Tommy will be coming between them and there is nothing that can be done about it.
Yep! Tommy’s going to have a new mama and papa, and neither of them are going to be thrilled with him. I have the feeling that Jess will be a conscientous maker and put her reposnsiblities to Tommy first, which will make a nice contrast to how Bill treated her.
yea, this actually will help me decide if i go along with that speculation or not.. ( Billy being a were bat)?? if the show turns Tommy into a vampire & he is not able to shift anymore … hummm…
@MC
Tonight I’m going to go back and do parallels for 1-4. I haven’t decided whether I’ll include Tommy or make him a separate post, but I think you’re right on the money. That MF Sam killed Tommy…and I was looking for ways to absolve him from that couple’s murder.
I suspected you were the guilty party.
@Renee.
I think it was after the first casting call. The prospector that was supposed to approach Tommy. Either you or MC or some one speculated that prospector could be a vampire.
Thanks for jogging my memory!
I added parallels for ep 1-3 above. There’s not much in the way of Eric, but the witchy parallels turned out quite surprising.
I like it very much! It all sounds perfectly logical.
The witch parallels I am much less sure about than the AE ones. I didn’t have any doppels to work with, but the pieces seemed to fit, so I went with them.
Could it be that MA and her storyline is a doppel/parallel for the witch storyline? If she is literally Hallow, all the moreso. She put a spell on the townspeople, was manipulating and had under her control a major character, and seemed to be doing it to accomplish some sort of breeding project. If Bill is trying to breed Sookie to a fairy it makes sense he would use a witch to do it. In fact, I’m thinking this is ultimately THE major reason he’s using witches against Sookie, otherwise he couldn’t hope to breed her.
You’ve all been so busy that I son’t think I’ll ever be able to catch up on all these brilliant ideas!
The conversation has been flying so fast in the last few days and I’ve been so busy that I’ve had a hard time reading all the comments, let alone responding.
Wow! :0
So what do you think about using MA as a doppel for the witches? I was thinking a couple of weeks ago about the similarities between the belief in magic in the film The Skeleton Key and MA’s belief in her immortality. In TSK, the magic didn’t work on the main character until she believed in it. In a REAL sense, MA couldn’t have been defeated until she believed her god had come.
I like the idea, but I haven’t had a chance to think it through. Now my brain is fried. I’ll come up with some coherent thoughts tomorrow morning.
In a REAL sense, MA couldn’t have been defeated until she believed her god had come.
Totally. There is a new study out this week along these same lines. Patients who believed their ineffective meds were working got the benefits of them. Patients who didn’t believe effective meds were working didn’t.
I have seen that study done many times over..same thing all the time…even had one where they told the honor kids they were slow,,and the slow kids they were honor…guess which group did better…the book Stigma by Ervin Goffman talks about labels and what it does to a person. I know first Frued/ Jung and now Goffman…my MSU education is finally being put to good use.
Fascinating! Thanks for the info.
@MC
You are probably way ahead of me on this, but in addition to the MA parallels you wrote about in Bird Call, it looks like Holly is a doppel for Ms. Jeanette. What do you think of this?
Miss Jeanette was a fraud and made a counterclockwise circle.
Holly is probably a fraud and made a counterclockwise circle.
Miss Jeanette put the knife in Tara’s hand so she could kill herself as a young girl.
Holly put the poison in Arlene’s hand so she could kill her baby.
Miss Jeanette’s anatheme had blood on it, which is a big Wicca no-no and renders it powerless.
Holly’s anatheme had blood on it.
A powerful supe used Ms. J’s ritual to enter the material world and target Tara.
Speculation: A powerful supe used Holly’s ritual to enter the material world and possibly target Arlene.
MA killed Ms. J.
Speculation: Hollow may do the same to Holly.
MA really wanted Sam’s heart in order to unite with her god.
Speculation: Hollow really wants Eric’s life/blood/heart in order to ???. If she’s a necromancer she probably wants to bring somebody back.
Maryann had orgies and rituals to get Dionysus to come.
Speculation: Marnie will have a seance to get Hollow to come.
Sam gives money to try to appease MA.
Speculation: Eric gives ?? to try to appease Hallow.
MA performed sex magic with Young Sam.
Speculation: Hollow performed sex magic with Younger Eric…maybe around 1610.
MA sent Daphne to Merlotte’s.
Spoiler: Hallow sends Daisy to FT.
Maryann is the Eggs & Tara’s puppet master.
Speculation: Hallow is Bill & Sookie’s puppet master.
Totally! The only difference I see is that Holly is not a fake witch, she knows what she is doing. She’s clearly not a Wiccan though because she would not to ask a blood sacrifice from someone else.
So Holly isn’t a fake witch, she’s a fake Wiccan. LOL!
Hahaha, exactly!
“Wiccans do not practice ritual abortion, ”
http://www.mdpagans.com/wiccaisnot.html
Every site you go to discussing Wicca is very adamant about not practicing blood sacrifice. It is apparently deemed ok to use a witches own blood in his/her ritual but it is strictly verboten to ask it of another.
I’m betting this is going to be the difference between good magic and evil magic–self-sacrifice vs. sacrificing others.
It goes along with what we see from Bill and Eric. Bill is always willing to spill someone else’s blood, but Eric usually sacrifices himself.
I’m betting this is going to be the difference between good magic and evil magic–self-sacrifice vs. sacrificing others.
It goes along with what we see from Bill and Eric. Bill is always willing to spill someone else’s blood, but Eric usually sacrifices himself.
EXACTLY EXACTLY. And for us, the ability to recognize the difference.
Shit, messed up the tag six ways from Sunday.
It also goes along with Bill POSING as good but practicing evil. Not just making mistakes, but knowingly and deliberately making a habit of perpetrating foul deeds.
I think I’ve got your tags fixed. Let me know if I messed them up.
Bill always makes sure that he appears to be self-sacrificial while being anything but.
i wonder if Hallow wants to bring her Brother “Mark” back ??
I like! This would fit with Bill’s loss of his mortal family and RE’s loss of Talbot.
I really like this one, AP. Something was definitely up with Holly and Arlene’s ritual; I think they definitely summoned something out there!
Thanks, jayetea!
Great stuff, thanks and a lot to ponder. I very much like the idea of Tommy being turned as well, esp. if this really ends the honeymoon of Jess & Hoyt but without any of them dying which would be a real shame actually.
What do you make of the half fairy which was added to episode 1? Was there any casting call for this at all?
There wasn’t a CC for the two uncredited faeries or the half faerie. I think they’re just glorified extras, thus no speaking parts or CC.
I was only surprised that they explicitly named her half fairy on IMBD. Otherwise I probably wouldn’t give it much thought.
I was surprised, too. It makes you wonder how she’s going to be identified as half-faerie and what her significance is.
The AE preview and the Paley spoilers were fantastic, but they have put me out of the prediction business. From now on I’m sticking to analysis.
I hope everyone got to see video and tweets. It was all good for Team Eric. I’ll put together a synopsis tomorrow to add to the spoiler page.
Behold Amnesia Eric in the flesh.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAncientPythoness#p/c/A18BFEADEE43FD59/1/-sys-Wn3nlU
The AE preview and the Paley spoilers were fantastic, but they have put me out of the prediction business.
Uh oh, what happened? I simply could not hang in there last night.
I LOVE the AE preview btw but who is the strange voice reading lines with AS standing in for?
The strange voice doesn’t bother me MC. I’m thinking it’s tricky editing. What I can’t wrap my head around is how very young Eric looks. I don’t get it yet. Ok makeup, lighting blah blah. But he looks younger than he does in Generation Kill. It almost looks like a clip from one of his very early films.
I had an evil thought, that AB is messing with us on a major scale about perception.
You know what? He totally DOES look too young, and way skinnier and less buff than we know him to be. He looks 20 years old in this clip, ffs. What could this mean? o_O
To me, yes about early 20 something. If you look at the jaw line in the clip and then find something close, present day, it is more evident. As to what this could mean, I need my tin foil hat. Maybe this won’t be the scene we finally see. I still think it has to do with perception. We see what we want to see. And those dorky slippers, uh uh.
I was just reading around for reactions to the clip and most people insist that AP is the female off camera voice! It is absolutely not her, but folks want it to be so it is. I have no clue why TB would release a clip with a stand-in rather than AP herself, but I’m with you–this is some kind of trickery like the gorilla in the video.
Is there a close up of the thing hanging from his neck? If it’s the ring he wore most of s3, then……
Honestly, it looks too solid to be a ring. It looks more like a small coin or pendant.
There is also something about his hair that doesn’t scan visually for me. Haircuts aside, it certainly isn’t as long as it was in IWRU as quite a few want to believe. Or maybe I’ve been reading too many conspiracy theories. But……AB is tricky.
No, Eric had floppy hair in IWRU. This is not floppy hair.
It was someone reading lines or lines being added in. The whole thing looked more like a rehearsal to me than real footage, especially with those shoes. Those were not Eric shoes and AE is supposed to be barefoot.
Isn’t it funny/strange/weird though that they would release a clip of the rehearsal, and one that doesn’t include Sookie in this most anticipated scene? Something doesn’t compute.
who is the strange voice reading lines with AS standing in for?
That was my impression, too. It wasn’t acting. It was someone reading lines or lines being added in. The whole thing looked more like a rehearsal to me than real footage, especially with those shoes. Those were not Eric shoes and AE is supposed to be barefoot.
Anyway, why are you out of the prediction business? You still haven’t told me what happened at Paley to make you come to this drastic conclusion.
He’s also way too rosy as some others have said and excuse it as something else. The DOD scene of him nekkid, was bluish and accentuated his paleness. This is a night scene but he does look human. Argh….I’m spiralling.
Uh oh, what happened? I simply could not hang in there last night.
If this clip is accurate, AE happens in 4.02, not 4.04 as all the parallels indicate. Even with the clip, I think it’s Lala who finds him, not Sookie or Pam as we are being led to believe.
I must say, just the staging of this scene has me confused. In DTTW, AE was running down the road when Sookie was driving home. In the preview it seems like they are both just out wandering around in the middle of the night.
The other thing that squashed my perdictions was AB saying, ““That betrayal is so deep I don’t think there is any way back from that. Hopefully we’ll have 17 more seasons.”
Now granted there is wiggle room, especially for magical intervention, but unless AB throws a really big bone to the BLs really soon, it looks like B/S are done for good.
There was one really delish bit of news though you, MC, will especially appreciate. Bill is not acting alone in his fight against SA.
Renee, don’t give up on predicting yet. There is something fishy going on and you’ll only need a little time to put the pieces together. I think we’re all high on the clip because it fulfills what we fantasize about. We are projecting onto that clip what we WANT to see. I may be in the minority, but I’m not buying it (the clip), the storyline yes.
Thansk Bobsgran. I have a hard time believing that clip is THE scene we’ve all been waiting for lo these many years.
OTOH, I have a hard time believing AB would fuck with the fandom to the extent of presenting a phony scene as the real deal.
OTOH, I have a hard time believing AB would fuck with the fandom to the extent of presenting a phony scene as the real deal.
LMAO Renee! Bullet sucking? Maenad? IDK, I do not in any way put it past AB to present a phony scene as a legit promo. At the very least, I’m with you in that I do NOT think AE happens as early as ep 2.
Oh, and add Olivia as a phony scene presented as legit. We could probably do this all day!!
Tru dat. This could be THE lookie that finally lets everyone know things don’t always happen the way they are presented.
That would be too much like a dream come true.
AB has a habit of thwarting my joy, damn him to Hades.
““That betrayal is so deep I don’t think there is any way back from that. Hopefully we’ll have 17 more seasons.”….Now granted there is wiggle room, especially for magical intervention, but unless AB throws a really big bone to the BLs really soon, it looks like B/S are done for good.
Meh, that could be like AB saying B/S were soulmates right before he lowered the boom and revealed Bill had allowed Sookie to be beaten by the Ratts. There is NO WAY I will believe Bill has allowed Sookie to get away from him until I see it with my own eyes.
Anyway, REALLY? He’s REALLY going to reveal that B/S are broken up? That’s suspiciously TMI, if you ask me.
There was one really delish bit of news though you, MC, will especially appreciate. Bill is not acting alone in his fight against SA
Well now, this IS delish. Of course this had to be the case, but is it Sookie as I have predicted? I will assume so until I see otherwise.
It is highly suspicious that AB would give up all the goods at the very first promo of the season. Remember how long we had to wait for images of S/E and how little info came with them?
However, I don’t see AB letting everyone believe that B/S are no more and then springing them on us in 4.01. There should be crumbs to string the BLs along. We’ll see.
Yes but on the other hand, he could hardly reveal that B/S are still together because then he would have to explain how this could possibly be after what Sookie found out. Everyone assumes B/S will be broken up so he’s allowing/helping people to rest on their assumptions. He certainly sprung the Ratt reveal on the BL’s after all his lovey-dovey B/S commentary. I’m certain a lot of them felt betrayed by the misdirection–imagine their joy when they find out they’re still together.
Renee, just thinking about the 4:02 amnesia. Even though we saw the clap board for 02, (the clip being questionable), perhaps the set up for his amnesia begins in 02. The actual “running on the dark road”, could still occur in 04.
Even though we saw the clap board for 02, (the clip being questionable), perhaps the set up for his amnesia begins in 02. The actual “running on the dark road”, could still occur in 04.
Good thinking!
SVB has all the news from Paley including the FT scene that was shown.
http://www.sookieverseblog.com/2011/03/06/paleyfest-spoilers-it-happens/
Shit, have to catch it latter. The friggin snow shovel calls.
LOL! That dang snow shovel. AE will be here to warm you up when you get back.
AP: ““We will see what she learned tempering the way she goes about looking for independence.””
Anybody else catch the weaslely way this statement is worded? What she learned about WHAT? How much more can she temper the way she goes about looking for independence?
“That betrayal is so deep I don’t think there is any way back from that. Hopefully we’ll have 17 more seasons.”
This is weasely as well. ‘betrayal’ might not only refer to the Ratt and edict reveals, it may in fact refer to what Bill does to Sookie in response to her finding out. IOW, the betrayal continues with Bill using whatever means necessary to keep her under his control. In fact, this sounds to me like Bill’s machinations will be obvious to the audience and not something left to imaginative tin foil hatters to figure out.
AB said vampires can be cloned? Dayum ya’ll, somehow I think this refers to a certain shifty shifting vampire who is able to ‘clone’ voices.
He did say something about cloning, but now I can’t remember what. I think vampire cloning would be more magical than scientific, and it does make you wonder if Bill can shift into other identities.
LOL! You picked out the two quotes I still have questions about. I want to hear them. I hope Paley puts up a video of the whole thing. Anna’s quote makes my head hurt trying to decipher it.
Yes, it would definitely be helpful to hear these quotes in context. Anna’s quote could be a grammar fail–not that I’m criticizing, mind you
— but I think she was trying so hard to be careful she FUBAR’d it.
I still think it’s strange they were practically giving away the store at Paley. I’m not buying most of this shizz lol.
I picked up on the word tempering which has a lot of overtones – alchemical ones relating to the humours and other meanings such as the mixing of substances, hardening, moderating and refreshing.
Hey anna, that’s interesting! I never would have related AP’s comment to alchemy even though it seems obvious now that you mention it. I hope AP has a good grasp of this subtext–somehow it would make her portrayal more meaningful.
Possibly flogging a dead horse…..That clip does not convey fear. If you turn off the sound it looks like he’s a little confused, but NOT afraid at all.
That clip does not convey fear. If you turn off the sound it looks like he’s a little confused, but NOT afraid at all. Totally.
Why does AE look so young? Is it the look of vulnerability?
WFS, I have a hair brained theory that AB is messing with those of us who want to see AE. Not that I don’t think it will happen, because enough people alluded to it, but that clip left me with a few questions.
The hair is not the same as it was in IWRU, it’s a lot shorter. AS looks way too young, and I don’t think it’s makeup and lighting, the body is not a mature male, more a young 20′s and finally, if you watch closely he doesn’t really convey fear. Confusion maybe, but to me not fear. This scene, when it doesn’t appear in s4, will be explained as being on the cutting room floor. I think AB has something to surprise us EL’s with in the final cut.
AB is possibly doing a perception exercise. We see what we WANT to see. Just my tin hat theory. I think I’m alone in this, but so be it.
We see what we WANT to see. Just my tin hat theory. I think I’m alone in this, but so be it.
BG, you are not alone in this.
the body is not a mature male
Nope.
If one is willing to look further into this clip and question what we’re seeing, it should be obvious that there is something drastically wrong here. First of all, E is wandering through a thicket of woods, he’s not on a road where someone is likely to come across him. Second, as you say he’s far too young to be AS as he currently is, aged 33-4 and quite buff though thin. His shoulders haven’t even filled out yet. He seriuosly looks late teens/early twenties here. Third, in what lifetime and under what possible circumstances would Eric Northman wear shoes/slippers like that?? I’d almost be willing to bet this is an outtake from one of AS’s earlier films. Does anyone have a clue which film it might be so we can search through it and see if we can find similar jeans/shoes/haircut/pendant etc? The English spoken doesn’t matter as they could have dubbed in his voice.
Umm, I’ve never seen Zoolander but I know the plot revolves around assassins out to get one of the models. Does something happen to AS character in that film that would suggest this scene?
Anyhoo, I’m not sure what year this photo was taken but this is definitely, IMO, the AS we are seeing in this clip- hair cut and boyish face is a perfect match:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/alexander%20skarsgard%20zoolander/ROBsessedBlog2/ALEX/alexander-skarsgard02.jpg
We see what we WANT to see. Just my tin hat theory. I think I’m alone in this, but so be it.
Well to be frank, EL’s have spent a good amount of time accusing BL’s of only seeing what they want to see, and perfectly legitimately too.. I guess AB turning the tables on EL’s is only to be expected.
It’s definitely not Zoolander. The hair was weird. This reminds me of a clip where he is on a couch with a girl making out and his buddy is there too. She falls asleep and he’s all frustrated. It is a Swedish film, not Om Sara, which has a very hot chair scene.
If AB is turning the tables on viewers again, that’s fine by me. That sitel you provided is much closer to his appearance in the clip than what he appears as now.
I don’t know why I’m all excited about this potential trickery, but I am. Weird huh.
I don’t know why I’m all excited about this potential trickery, but I am. Weird huh.
*snort* I am postively giddy.
I’m quite certain AE will happen but this is…this is just not it. I think AB is playing with us, seeing if some of us EL’s are willing to question some of our own cherished notions.
LMAO!!! I think I just proved this clip is totally bogus dude.
“Ext. country road-night”
“A shirtless blonde man wandering aimlessly down the middle of the road/
LOLOLOL. About the only thing accurate about this dialogue is that the man is shirtless and that it’s night. Where is this country road? It’s not in evidence. ‘Eric’ certainly isn’t in the middle of one.
I wonder if anyone else in the great wide net is questioning what has been shown?
I have to fangirl a teensy, he was so cute when he came on stage and was greeted with a thunderous applause. There was no question who the favourite was at that particular venue. End of my silliness.
Agreed! AS is totally and unequivocally the most attractive and charismatic actor out there right now.
I’m making a post about this vid as we type.
I think I’m alone in this, but so be it.
You’re not the only one to think something is hinky with that clip.
I commented over at TBU, but I’m going to throw this in here. I don’t think there is anything wrong with questioning what we are seeing, but I personally think this clip is legitimate, but definitely unfinished. AS’s hair isn’t exactly the same as it was in IWRU, but I don’t see why that matters. It’s definitely free of the season 3 product and the slicked back look, which makes him look younger, imo. AS has said that his naturally body type is spindly, so he has to work hard to keep weight on. I personally thought he looked much thinner in S3ep.11 than he did in S3ep.1. I noticed it first in his face when he confronts RE in the museum and then in the way his jacket was hanging on his body. Eric’s face looks much more filled out in ep. 2 and even in ep. 5 to me, but for me there is a noticeable difference by ep. 11. Some of it may be lighting, makeup, etc. For me, AS has a rather changeable face, if that makes sense. His demeanor and the angle that you see him from really changes his face moreso than in SM for example. Maybe it’s just me, but as handsome of a guy as he is, he definitely has the ability to look goofy or dorky as well quite easily.
Even if AB is doing something hinky with this scene, there is no way that he would splice film from AS’s earlier work into TB. That honestly makes no sense at all.
As far as Eric wearing slippers, the man wears flip-flops and track suits, so I don’t think the slippers are that big of a deal, but I don’t think the clip is finished and they may have him in bare feet when they are done.
As for the country road, it’s probably not a paved road. I think we have to take the voice over with a tiny grain of salt. The voice over guy also refers to Eric as a monster, which I personally find to be an inaccurate but facile description.
That clip is just a clip, it’s not an entire scene and it is obviously not finished. We don’t know what happened to Eric before he ends up there, how he lost his shirt, etc. (I don’t think we ever find out why he doesn’t have a shirt or shoes on in the book either, except that it’s a convenient plot device by CH to give Sookie and excuse to wash Eric’s feet, etc.)
Anyway, I’m not here to stir up trouble, but I personally think that in the case of this clip, what we are seeing is AS doing a bang up acting job.
@jayetea
All points of view are welcome here, and there is no way that your post could be misconstrued to be stirring up trouble. It takes a brave soul to swim against the tide. You may very well be right about the clip, but there are enough things that seem off about it to make me wonder.
Time will tell. In any case, I am thrilled with the prospect of AE.
@jayetea. As one of the few that sees that clip in a different way I do understand what you are saying, just my thoughts differ.
Maybe some people are thinking that because there is a different opinion, that we don’t believe AE will happen. For me that’s not the case. I do believe AE will happen and AB will no doubt put his unique twist on the story. My pov relates only to the clip shown, and I too am thrilled that AE will happen.
I’ve been quietly reading this discussion (here and at Sunny’s). Weighing in with my 2 cents, so it’s not necessarily worth much.
I just don’t see HBO and AB airing something they didn’t film, or using something blatantly false to promote what’s become one of their most popular and critically acclaimed shows. There are copyright laws to consider. They’re showing us AE because they WANT us to tune in, talk it up on our blogs, generate excitement, increase their ratings, increase the # of HBO subscribers. Askars is their golden boy, in more ways than one.
IMO, it’s just an un-mixed, un-edited piece of raw footage meant to generate excitement. Nothing more.
Krtmd, I understand what you’re saying and you are entitled to your opinion as much as anyone else. But the clip is not false per se if the storyline it implies is actually going to happen, which I strongly believe it will. As for copyright laws AB–or HBO– could have bought the rights to use this clip just like he bought the rights to the SVM.
un-edited piece of raw footage
Sure it is, but I just can’t get past the fact that they were still free to match the dialogue to the action; nothing was stopping them from doing so. Why didn’t they?
@Krtmd. Your reasons are certainly compelling, but on this clip only, I’m going to stick with my perceptions and trust my gut instincts. I may be wrong in the long run. Wouldn’t be the first time and won’t be the last. If nothing else I hope that the differing pov provide food for thought and civil discussion.
Yes, it’s the clip in question, not the plotline itself. I could be wrong, yes, but there are still major problems with the clip and I can’t get past that fact.
It’s not only what we want to see but what we are conditioned to see.
It’s not only what we want to see but what we are conditioned to see.
So true. I am fascinated by the leaps our brains can make to fill in the holes.
I hope my comment did come across as respectful and civil, because that was most certainly my intent. I LOVE coming here and reading and talking about my obsession with others, and I would not want to jeopardize that. You’re all entitled to your own opinions, obviously, and only time will tell how this plays out. Waiting Sucks, indeed.
Krtmd I don’t see your comment as anything but civil. And just to add, I shivered when AS said “It happens” at Paley. The “It” being everything we hope.
@ Krtmd
No worries, there. You will always be welcome here. We can all be civil and still discuss our differences of opinion.
I hope my comment did come across as respectful and civil, because that was most certainly my intent.
It did Krtmd, and I really appreciate it.
As some one who sometimes has trouble conveying my own emotions to others, this is what amazes me about actors. How do they do that? LOL!
It really is a unique talent being an actor. The ones that do it well transport viewers to places, emotions and memories. Then there are just the pretty ones.
a New TB commercial appeared last night before Big Love came on..
Shirtless Eric it looks like to me..possibly AE ..
woops i forgot to add the link :
http://www.hbo.com/true-blood/index.html#/true-blood/cast-and-crew/eric-northman/video/waiting-sucks-ic.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLtQsy0xJzXfMS8ypLMlMds7PK0mtKFHPz0mBCQUkpqf6JeamcjIyskknlpbkF+QkVtqWFJWmsjGyMQIAWCcXOA
the new TB commercial ..
maybe this will work :
http://www.sookieverseblog.com/
okay here is the Youtube video of the New Commercial:
Waiting sucks :
Thanks IATM. This clip has been the topic of some hot and heavy discussion. Some of us aren’t sure it is what it purports to be. Sunny has a link to a 20 something AS, and this AE looks much more like him than the Viking of 3.01.
yea, i just finished reading through.. i just saw it today but you guys already had the info
well here is yet another s4 Spoiler :
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/03/06/true-blood-season-four-spoiler/
it looks like Eric meets some Faries as well..
in that link appears that AS didnt want Russell’s character to come back..
i sort of agree with him.. it was out of Eric’s character to not finish Russell off since he went through the “Ultimate Vampire Dream situation..
IDK, i think AB kept Eric running down Hummingbird road baefoot & shirtless as a yummy does & nod to DTTW..
one thing AB talked about that i enjoyed was the fact that vampires can dream.. i have always been a fan of the shared dream theory.. & Sookie in s3 did ask Eric in her own dream if the his blood will wearoff.. she never got an answer.. so maybe AB is keeping true to the books in that regard as well…
LOL! But that’s not what was shown! Eric was not running. He was not on Hummingird road, and he was not barefoot. Yummy I’ll give you.
LOL, but Eric on TB was walking on a dark road.. and the female voice sounds like Sookie IMO..
does Sookie on TB still live on Hummingbird Road?? AB might have changed the street..LOL !!
LMAO! I did not even realize, or did not compute the fact that the dialogue said he was barefoot. OMG, it just gets worse and worse. LOL.
Oh ouch, I didn’t realize you were describing the scene from the book.
yea in DTTW AE was shirtless & Barefoot when Sookie found him at after work running down her street “Hummingbird road”..
on the rehersal scene Eric in shirtless & i assume by s4 he will be barefoot because in that clip he was wearing slipper’s.. this clip reminded me of last year when we got the silver handcuff picture’s & everyone was trying to figure out why Eric was kneeling down to Bill .. & in s3 we found out that Bill strapped Eric with Silver handcuffs & Eric went down..
And there is a voice-over. That’s a first for TB and why was a voice-over required even if it is a ruff cut. Couldn’t the off screen Sookie (?) just say the lines? Do they do voice-overs in ruff cuts to explain a scene? I”m not knowledgable in that kind of stuff.
Hey BG,
so far i havent seen ( between the 3 seasons) AB release a fake video clip or fake spoiler of a season..
AB admitted to leaking out false spoiler info in regards to throw off the bookies.. but how much spoiler stuff has been fake??
& so far i havent come across a fake spoiler of a video for spoiler info released..
I get what you are saying IATM, but that doesn’t mean this could be the first. If he has leaked false spoilers before, this could be the next step. I do want to emphasize that I do think AE will happen. It’s this particular clip that doesn’t feel authentic.
The spoiler isn’t fake, the promo clip is. IMO.
Travelling further down my own rabbit hole, why the prologue of a typewritten page with the supposed scene? Why not show the ruff cut clip simply as is? Book readers would be able to identify the scene very quickly and those that have not read the books should be intrigued by the whole thing. Maybe I’m overthinking?
that is a great question BG.. & that deserves more speculation..
AB said that Vamps can dream & they dream of future & past events.. either the AE story arc is occuring at present time or it’s a past event Sookie is rehasing..
Sookie’s entire life is a script..LOL that might be the analogy are it could be something else??
in that clip it was as if someone else was telling us what happen because it actually had a narrator..
in the SVM Sookie reads alot of romance novles.. i wonder if she viewed AE as some sort of Romance novel cover dude..
Sookie say’s that line about our Viking in DUD..
Sookie : the man over there was radiant ( like one of the men on a ramance novel book)..
in that clip it was as if someone else was telling us what happen because it actually had a narrator..
Terrific point IATM! What we have here is a perfect example of an unreliable narrator, literally!! I think this narrator is demonstrating the power of an authoratative voice to decieve an audience into believing what he is SAYING rather than what we can see with our own eyes, and to force us into conclusions contrary to evidence and logic.
Which is a perfect analogy to Bill, come to think of it. We’ve often accused BL’s of listening to what Bill is saying rather than keeping an eye on what he is actually doing. This clip is a perfect demostration of this dynamic, with the tables turned. Twisty!
I agree Charm..
i agree Charm.. besides if AB kept that scene in s4 are we going to get the narrator as well???
because it was a man’s voice narratoring every action Eric did in that clip.. are we to believe that we are in AE’s head??
because it was a man’s voice narratoring every action Eric did in that clip.. are we to believe that we are in AE’s head??
No, the narrator seems to be reading from the script which explains the action to the actor so that he can act out the scene. We won’t hear the narrator we will only see the action as dicated by the script.
well, it will be interesting to see how the real scene is played out in s4..
i mean the whole script & narrator telling us who & what is going on is a first on TB since the 3 seasons started..
& Frankly i dont really see the point in creating the scene with a narrator explaining AE’s actions & a voice saying Eric it’s me.. especially if the theory of Laffy finding AE & stashing him in the freezer is suppose to be true..
Nice.
oops, hit the wrong key, sorry.
What I wanted to say was nice points IATM and Sunny.
There is nothing inherently suspicious in a voice-over describing the action in a promo. The problem is the dialogue inplies exposition from the script itself, so therefore if the clip is not deceptive in that respect we have to assume they actually did film a scene of Eric ‘wandering down a country road’. Therefore there is no logical excuse for not using THAT particular clip to match the dialogue.
The dialogue and the typewriting on the page implies description of the action from the script.
I think I got it. It’s the technique of using the typewritten page, the close up, the fact that it’s “old school” typewriter. I keep thinking I’m going to hear “It was a dark and stormy night”. LOL
Excatly, maybe this is how Sookie see’s AE when she bumps into him on that fatefull night?? LOL !!
AB already said i think that Sookie see’s things differently than the audience.. or was that Charm who said that??? LOL !!!
LOL! I wish we HAD heard that, then the clip would be an almost perfect example fuckedupNESS.
LOL! It was a dark and stormy night the night Sookie picked up AE up, wasn’t it? It either was raining or had been raining. That was why she had to get him out of his jeans.
it was Jan ( winter time) actually Sookie picked up AE after work on New Years Eve in DTTW.. she told him to take off his pants ( & we got AE in the little red bikini underwear) because she said the pants were filthy.. & since he was barefoot his feet were filthy too.. so she washed his feet..
but yup Renee, it was a dark cold winter night when Sookie found AE running down Hummingbird road..LOL !!
AB already said i think that Sookie see’s things differently than the audience.. or was that Charm who said that??? LOL !!!
Haha, it was me. AB would never admit to such a thing.
well i love reading your theories Charm
i think you should be writing for TB & you havent read the books..
Fangtasic shit Charm
Thanks IATM, I appreciate your appreciation but I could never write for TB. I just do not have the talent nor the credentials. I like my little niche on the internet where I can admire TB and AB from afar, and I wouldn’t change a thing.
well we know the show isnt going to really last 17 more seasons..LOL !! i think that was AB’s way of telling the Bill fans it aint gonna happen..
so since AB & writer’s hooked Tara up like they did :
s1 : Tara & Sam
s2 : Tara & Eggs
s3 : Tara & Franklin & back to Sam as a lover
this is foreshadowing Sookie back to the Viking later on.. after all the amnesia stuff is done & Eric remember’s “Everything” ( like he told Russell in s3 in the Limo)..
i just saw the second half of the Paley Fest video :
LOL i’m so happy that AB kept Billy a rapist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO9WYslKDA8&feature=player_embedded
i was wondering if he was going to do this or not..
ooooooohhhh here is the meaning of the number 17 since AB threw that number out there for us…
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu17.php
Interesting that harmony and balance figure prominently in the meaning of the number 17. TAP and I have often said AB loves symmetry.
“Symmetry (from the Greek: “συμμετρεῖν” = to measure together), generally conveys two primary meanings. The first is an imprecise sense of harmonious or aesthetically pleasing proportionality and balance; such that it reflects beauty or perfection. The second meaning is a precise and well-defined concept of balance or “patterned self-similarity” that can be demonstrated or proved according to the rules of a formal system: by geometry, through physics or otherwise.”
Yes, so the “Yin & Yang” of it all..
& AB is giving us that on TB between the Character’s..
Yin & Yang :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang
From the Tao Te Ching
Tao produces one
One produces two
Two produce three
Three produce myriad things
Myriad things, backed by yin and embracing yang
Achieve harmony by integrating their energy
in the book version i truly think that Eric & Sookie is Yin & Yang..
the coexsist with one another.. Bill & Sookie IMO is = to Chaos..
This is probably very random and i know in the books that the witches cause Erics amnesia and will in the tv series but two comments have me thinking. In one AB is talking about Sookie going off to fairy land and says. “Something else that fairies can do they can abduct humans and take them somewhere else that is not here, just like aliens.” then in another when asked who erased Erics memorys (cant find it to quote, but i think it may have been an interview) he replied with “aliens did it.” (aliens meaning fairies) He was most likely joking but i thought i might as well share my thoughts :0)
Welcome emsky! I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out to find that the fae are meddling with people other than Sookie. At Paley either AB or AS said the witches were behind the abduction, but that doesn’t mean there weren’t others involved, too.
Thank you, and i just realised i posted this in the wrong bit, should have gone in speculation oops
Aaaaaah so I can finally say it: I told you so
)) Sookie will find Eric
)
http://www.hbo.com/#/true-blood/about/video/in-production-season-4.html/eNrjcmbO0CzLTEnNd8xLzKksyUx2zs8rSa0oUc-PSYEJBSSmp-ol5qYyFzLnszECoXRiaUl+QU5ipW1JUWkqJyMjAG2-Fzg=
That may be, but mark my words. Lala or Pam will have AE stashed in the fridge at some point, and that clip of AE is not from episode 2. It’s probably from 4.04.
Very cool indeed but You are right its not from ep 2.
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