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August 4, 2011
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Maryalma, I'm so sorry to hear about your pain. It must be horrible for you, and for your family to have to watch you suffer so much. I'll pray for you my dear.

 

You probably already know about this, but have you ever tried pot?

 

Marijuana Gains Wonder Drug Status

A new study reveals that pot relieves pain that narcotics like morphine and OxyContin have hardly any effect on, and could help ease suffering from illnesses such as multiple sclerosis and diabetes.
 
 
 A new study in the journal Neurology is being hailed as unassailable proof that marijuana is a valuable medicine. It is a sad commentary on the state of modern medicine — and US drug policy — that we still need "proof" of something that medicine has known for 5,000 years.

The study, from the University of California at San Francisco, found smoked marijuana to be effective at relieving the extreme pain of a debilitating condition known as peripheral neuropathy. It was a study of HIV patients, but a similar type of pain caused by damage to nerves afflicts people with many other illnesses including diabetes and multiple sclerosis. Neuropathic pain is notoriously resistant to treatment with conventional pain drugs. Even powerful and addictive narcotics like morphine and OxyContin often provide little relief. This study leaves no doubt that marijuana can safely ease this type of pain.

As all marijuana research in the United States must be, the new study was conducted with government-supplied marijuana of notoriously poor quality. So it probably underestimated the potential benefit.

This is all good news, but it should not be news at all. In the 40-odd years I have been studying the medicinal uses of marijuana, I have learned that the recorded history of this medicine goes back to ancient times and that in the 19th century it became a well-established Western medicine whose versatility and safety were unquestioned. From 1840 to 1900, American and European medical journals published over 100 papers on the therapeutic uses of marijuana, also known as cannabis.

Of course, our knowledge has advanced greatly over the years. Scientists have identified over 60 unique constituents in marijuana, called cannabinoids, and we have learned much about how they work. We have also learned that our own bodies produce similar chemicals, called endocannabinoids.

The mountain of accumulated anecdotal evidence that pointed the way to the present and other clinical studies also strongly suggests there are a number of other devastating disorders and symptoms for which marijuana has been used for centuries; they deserve the same kind of careful, methodologically sound research. While few such studies have so far been completed, all have lent weight to what medicine already knew but had largely forgotten or ignored: Marijuana is effective at relieving nausea and vomiting, spasticity, appetite loss, certain types of pain, and other debilitating symptoms. And it is extraordinarily safe — safer than most medicines prescribed every day. If marijuana were a new discovery rather than a well-known substance carrying cultural and political baggage, it would be hailed as a wonder drug.

The pharmaceutical industry is scrambling to isolate cannabinoids and synthesize analogs, and to package them in non-smokable forms. In time, companies will almost certainly come up with products and delivery systems that are more useful and less expensive than herbal marijuana. However, the analogs they have produced so far are more expensive than herbal marijuana, and none has shown any improvement over the plant nature gave us to take orally or to smoke.

We live in an antismoking environment. But as a method of delivering certain medicinal compounds, smoking marijuana has some real advantages: The effect is almost instantaneous, allowing the patient, who after all is the best judge, to fine-tune his or her dose to get the needed relief without intoxication. Smoked marijuana has never been demonstrated to have serious pulmonary consequences, but in any case the technology to inhale these cannabinoids without smoking marijuana already exists as vaporizers that allow for smoke-free inhalation.

Hopefully the UCSF study will add to the pressure on the US government to rethink its irrational ban on the medicinal use of marijuana — and its destructive attacks on patients and caregivers in states that have chosen to allow such use. Rather than admit they have been mistaken all these years, federal officials can cite "important new data" and start revamping outdated and destructive policies. The new Congress could go far in establishing its bona fides as both reasonable and compassionate by immediately moving on this issue.

 

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/48749/

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August 4, 2011
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Thanks Sunny. I have had 2 pain specialists mention pot but "off the record" since I live in a state where medical marijuana is illegal.As part of my being treated at this pain clinic I had to sign an extensive agreement where I have to have random drug testing (all their patients have to agree to this) to show I am not using illegal drugs. Finally, I am probably one of the few people of my generation who has never smoked pot not only because I was a tremendous nerd but I have suffered terrible migraines since my teens and one of my triggers has been smoke. Even a whiff of cigarette smoke would set me off, and pot was not far behind. I also have some trouble with wood smoke. As I am perimenopausal, my migraines are improving. My poor daughter inherited the migraines and she has similar triggers, but hers have been manifesting since kindergarten. Anyway, I would have to pursue non inhalant methods of using marijuana, though it might still trigger migraines since some foods and beverages(can't drink tonic water since quinine is a trigger). also set me off. I was fortunate to find an acupuncturist within the last year who accepts workman's comp and it helps for 2-3 days. My main issue is the huge amount of scar tissue in the spinal canal so that in any position I have nerve roots that are entrapped. I have not slept a full night in 8 years since I have to change position every 20-30 minutes to shift which nerve roots are most compressed. My husband qualifies for sainthood I think, he is a natural nurturer, nursed both his parents through long lingering deaths from cancer and kept to their wishes to die at home in their own beds. Now he is stuck with me, but he is even more loving and affectionate with the years, and I am often very irritable and short tempered.  I have seen too many of my friends who developed debilitating medical problems including one who had breast cancer that claimed her life(she had to watch her youngest graduate HS remotely while she was dying in a hospice house) abandoned by their husbands when they became sick. My husband has to to all the cooking, shopping, etc while working full time and taking care of someone who can't bathe, dress or even comb my hair without assistance. I am so blessed, I don't know what I did to deserve him. Anyway,  I have seen both sides of the pain control contraversy as an MD and as a patient and there are definitely big problems that need to be dealt with, there are too many of us who are suffering and even with all the literal black and white evidence of what a tremendous mess my spine is, I still have to battle those who want to call me an addict because I take pain meds. I always had great pain tolerance , had 2 kids without epidurals despite 2-3 days labor each, dislocated my shoulder and didn't seek medical attention for 2 days since I was visiting my inlaws and wanted to wait to see my own doctor, signed out of the ER AMA with kidney stones because I felt I could handle it at home, had emergency abdominal surgery with spinal instead of general anesthesia or sedation since I was pregnant with my son and didn't want him exposed to meds that might harm him. But as you mention, nerve pain like I have is very difficult to control, that is why I have tried so many pain clinics and specialists looking for help, and have been doing better until we hit this new snag. We will get through this, but it is tough to keep upbeat right now. Thanks for thinking about me and thanks for all the info.      

February 15, 2012
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hi to everyone. newbie and long-time lurker here. have been reading this particular site as well as sookieverse for a little over 2 years now.

i've read the books, and while the style of the writing-for me-feels more like "young adult", i do enjoy the story itself and love the universe where vamps, were, witches, and other "supes" are just another day at the bar. lol!

 

i went in search of others view and perspectives, keeping that "popcorn for smart people" firmly in the front of my mind. having done so, it has opened up an entire world of theories, deeper meaning (and hopefully) deeper understanding of narratives, plot lines and the subtle art of telling a story through visuals: i.e.-carefully placed symbols, the use of color, and lighting; and camera shots.

 

i do very much enjoy reading other perspectives on the story i have followed, both in book form and now in its incarnation of television series. can't wait to see and hear what's next!

 

and just for the record, Jason sums it up for me: "Sook-Sook, say somethin'….are you brain damaged?"  Wink

February 15, 2012
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Haha, good one angiequinn!

 

Welcome! Feel free to jump in and bump any thread that interests you!

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February 19, 2012
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sunny said:

Haha, good one angiequinn!

 

Welcome! Feel free to jump in and bump any thread that interests you!

here's hoping that some of those who are browsing right now will also 'jump in and bump' as well…join us, won't you Laugh

May 14, 2012
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Hi!  Sunny said I should come over here to introduce myself…I didn't want to start a new thread, so thought I would add to this one.

 

I just finally decided to jump in and try to contribute to the discussions here.  I found this forum and the blog here and TBU when I was trying to find others that may have noticed all the madness going on with the show, and I discovered I wasn't the only person out there scratching my head at so many strange things that seemed out of place on the show as well as so much more seeming to underlie it all.  And I've been devouring everything I can read here since, LOL.  I still haven't made it through all the threads, its quite time consuming :)  But I'm enjoying all the information here, and find I may have some useful input to add here and there that I haven't seen discussed yet.

 

Anyways, thanks for having me :)

May 15, 2012
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hi tawnymac! and  welcome

May 15, 2012
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Hi tawnymac! welcome

 

Just to let you know, please feel free to bump any of the old threads if you have questions or something to add. We love it when old topics get a fresh perspective.

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